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ok so, I've been wanting to start building tube stuff for a loong time now, and I finally decided I'd give the ax84 p1 project a shot.

Their power supply specifies a 190v-0-190v @ 65mA plate transformer, they full-wave rectify that to 250V.

Ack radio, local to me, has the 125E output transformer that I haven't been able to find anywhere else, but they dont have that 269EX plate/filament trafo that the project uses, but they DO have the 261G6 transformer, that's 250VRMS CT @ 130mA and 6.3V @ 2A. Now, I imagine that I'd need to rectify slightly differently, but I ought to end up in the same ballpark, or somewhat higher voltage.

Their scheme is a dual rectifier (either silicon or valve) fullwave, so they turn the 190VRMS into ~250V after filtering, and then they use the center tap as ground, and stick the standby switch there.

With the 250VCT transformer, I could ignore the center tap, bridge rectify the 250VRMS, and get ~330V after filtering, that seems like it would work ok, but would that preclude the use of valve rectifiers? Or, could I use a pair of dual rectifier tubes to do that? In that case, where would I stick the standby switch? On the low-potential output leg of the bridge?

Is there another way to go about this that would work better? Am I better off holding out for a 190-0-190V transformer?

Ack also carries a 400-0-400, but I imagine this is way overkill for my needs.

Guys, give me some direction! I'm thinking about going down there on my lunch break, and I wasted most of the afternoon just thinking about how to compose this message! :)
 
I believe the P1 is half-wave. At least the new schematics are for it if I'm not mistaken on the terminology. There are only two diodes both taking the top of each AC wave. They have the transformer you want at angela electronics. It is usually on sale as well.

Joel
 
also, what about rectifying it the same way as the p1 scheme does, and ending up with 160-175V B+? Does the EL84 handle lower plate voltage gracefully?

The reason I ask is because with the other scheme, I'd have to regulate down to 300V or less, since the EL84 seems to have a max plate voltage of 300V.
 
You could just use a 6V6 power tube instead. and leave the higher B+, But that transformer is will have alot of current left over for an amp like the P1. I would just get the correct transformer for your first tube project, save that one for your next amp. That way you can focus on things like layout instead of redesign.

The 125E is Hammonds 15 watt Push Pull experimenter transformer. Alot of people like to use half the primary and stick it in SE amp, but this is really kind of a goofy thing to do since hammond also makes the 125ESE, which is the SE version of the 125E with a large air gap. The 125ESE sounds alot better, especialy in the low end.

Angela or Antique Electronic Supply Has both of these transformers. Put the 269EX and 125E aside for after you finish the P1, use them for a small Push-Pull amp. At least that is what I would do.

adam
 
good place for info

http://www.duncanamps.com/technical/technical.html
 

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