chrissugar
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Hmmmm, :grin: Fairman.
Some more details please.
chrissugar
Some more details please.
chrissugar
who wants to see the inside of my Vipre?(gear porn)
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chrissugar
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Hey MasteringComponents,
Please can you make some close shoots with the interior of the Lavry converters. Please, just for some intelectual/visual masturbasion. :grin:
If I can choose please the Gold series. :grin:
Oh, one more thing. If possible both AD and DA. :grin:
chrissugar
Please can you make some close shoots with the interior of the Lavry converters. Please, just for some intelectual/visual masturbasion. :grin:
If I can choose please the Gold series. :grin:
Oh, one more thing. If possible both AD and DA. :grin:
chrissugar
MasteringComponents
Member
[quote author="chrissugar"]Hey MasteringComponents,
Please can you make some close shoots with the interior of the Lavry converters. Please, just for some intelectual/visual masturbasion. :grin:
If I can choose please the Gold series. :grin:
Oh, one more thing. If possible both AD and DA. :grin:
chrissugar[/quote]
Please can you make some close shoots with the interior of the Lavry converters. Please, just for some intelectual/visual masturbasion. :grin:
If I can choose please the Gold series. :grin:
Oh, one more thing. If possible both AD and DA. :grin:
chrissugar[/quote]
okgb
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And i think the layout blows , note the angled power transfomer
instead of using a torridial , but maybe it lets them sell it on a
" authentic " handwired angle , he is after all , a salesman .
regards Greg
instead of using a torridial , but maybe it lets them sell it on a
" authentic " handwired angle , he is after all , a salesman .
regards Greg
DrFrankencopter
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My guess is that the angled transformer is the output transformer, not the pwr transformer. I figure the power tranny is the one at the back of the unit, right by the power inlet.
Wow, the Fairman looks pretty incredible doesn't it....
Cheers,
K
Wow, the Fairman looks pretty incredible doesn't it....
Cheers,
K
chrissugar
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Come on, you are just teasing.
Show some more details from that Lavry. Pleeeezz. :grin:
chrissugar
Show some more details from that Lavry. Pleeeezz. :grin:
chrissugar
MasteringComponents
Member
[quote author="rodabod"]That TMA FAIRMAN & JAMBOR preamp is beautiful!
I want one!!!!
Is it balanced all the way through then?
Lovely looking construction.[/quote]
Pure symmetrical balanced:
- Built to last a lifetime
- Unparalleled tube technology.
- Four identically developed signal paths, utilising a symmetrical push-pull design
and producing fantastic 2 channel/stereo pre-amplification
- Fully discrete, symmetrically pure Class A Tube technology.
- An 11 pos. setting, selectable microphone source loading for optimised cable/ microphone matching.
- male/female audio signal capacitor switch
special sealed silver /gold relays switching high end audio S-MKPs
(Silver in oil / silver with 1% gold, paper in oil and more high end signal Capacitors)
for two separate sound characteristics
2 balanced input transformer 240 khz, 2 balanced big output transformerand and one 3 protected Mu metal single-aperture core trafo 340 V
I want one!!!!
Is it balanced all the way through then?
Lovely looking construction.[/quote]
Pure symmetrical balanced:
- Built to last a lifetime
- Unparalleled tube technology.
- Four identically developed signal paths, utilising a symmetrical push-pull design
and producing fantastic 2 channel/stereo pre-amplification
- Fully discrete, symmetrically pure Class A Tube technology.
- An 11 pos. setting, selectable microphone source loading for optimised cable/ microphone matching.
- male/female audio signal capacitor switch
special sealed silver /gold relays switching high end audio S-MKPs
(Silver in oil / silver with 1% gold, paper in oil and more high end signal Capacitors)
for two separate sound characteristics
2 balanced input transformer 240 khz, 2 balanced big output transformerand and one 3 protected Mu metal single-aperture core trafo 340 V
nacho459
Well-known member
Aspen is always there at NAMM or AES to give demos of the ViPRE and the Glory Comp. They have em there with the plexi top so you can see everything inside, and they'll point out what everything is and what it all does.
Yeah, the ViPRE is balanced all the way through, and has a bunch of unique features like the variable impedance selector although that isn't new you get a lot of options and you don't have to hook up jumpers. The rise time feature plays with the transients of the signal and lets you smooth out the sound of the mic. There aren't any pots on the front panel, all the controls are switches. You get 70 dB of gain with two rotary switches that let you dial it down to single dB adjustments.
I think this is one of those boxes that companies don't make because you can't make a lot of money on it. This is the kind of thing that some big shot engineer would have custom built. IMHO The ViPRE is an over the top ultimate mic pre, that gets close to the land of audiopholery without crossing that line.
Honestly I could see myself in the future having a rack of API's, or just a good console for recording drums, and a ViPRE, and that being it for mic pres.
The one thing I see that this pre doesn't give you is grit. Not distortion, just that good old "hitting the 1567a too hard" grit.
Yeah, the ViPRE is balanced all the way through, and has a bunch of unique features like the variable impedance selector although that isn't new you get a lot of options and you don't have to hook up jumpers. The rise time feature plays with the transients of the signal and lets you smooth out the sound of the mic. There aren't any pots on the front panel, all the controls are switches. You get 70 dB of gain with two rotary switches that let you dial it down to single dB adjustments.
I think this is one of those boxes that companies don't make because you can't make a lot of money on it. This is the kind of thing that some big shot engineer would have custom built. IMHO The ViPRE is an over the top ultimate mic pre, that gets close to the land of audiopholery without crossing that line.
Honestly I could see myself in the future having a rack of API's, or just a good console for recording drums, and a ViPRE, and that being it for mic pres.
The one thing I see that this pre doesn't give you is grit. Not distortion, just that good old "hitting the 1567a too hard" grit.
Peter Simonsen
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cooooomoooonn...more of the Lavry..!! inside..me wants..me thinks..me want to ccccccccccceeeeeeee...!!!
Kind regards
Peter
Kind regards
Peter
MasteringComponents
Member
[quote author="Peter Simonsen"]cooooomoooonn...more of the Lavry..!! inside..me wants..me thinks..me want to ccccccccccceeeeeeee...!!!
Kind regards
Peter[/quote]
more secrets will not be shown.
Lavry gold is wat it is - gold -
Kind regards
Peter[/quote]
more secrets will not be shown. Lavry gold is wat it is - gold -
chrissugar
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Ha ha ha! What secrets? That box is probably one of the most unDIYable things in the proaudio field. High quality, analog electronics, custom AD converter (not based on the shelf chips), temperature stabilised owen for the converter, custom jitter free reclocking, custom DSP filtering software. Should I continue?
That box can't be reproduced even if you have complete PCB gerbers and component list. :grin:
So stop the teasing and show us some of that stuff. :grin:
chrissugar
That box can't be reproduced even if you have complete PCB gerbers and component list. :grin:
So stop the teasing and show us some of that stuff. :grin:
chrissugar
pucho812
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I think most a/d and d/a converters are pretty diyable IMO. However if I were to DIY it would one tube line in and tube line out on the analog side. Anyway here is a nice block digram of the viapre.
http://groovetubes.com/assets/1602_Vipre_block_diagram_copy.PDF
http://groovetubes.com/assets/1602_Vipre_block_diagram_copy.PDF
chrissugar
Well-known member
[quote author="pucho812"]I think most a/d and d/a converters are pretty diyable IMO. However if I were to DIY it would one tube line in and tube line out on the analog side.
[/quote]
This is one of the most common errors, people think that adding a tube analog circuit to a converter solves the problems. If the digital side of the converter is not optimal you can add the best analog electronics, it will not matter.
Of course if the goal is the quality level of M-audio sound cards. But if it is about high resolution conversion I think the number of manufacturers who understand the entire process of conversion in theory and practice, you can count them on the fingers of one hand.
chrissugar
chrissugar
[/quote]
This is one of the most common errors, people think that adding a tube analog circuit to a converter solves the problems. If the digital side of the converter is not optimal you can add the best analog electronics, it will not matter.
Of course if the goal is the quality level of M-audio sound cards. But if it is about high resolution conversion I think the number of manufacturers who understand the entire process of conversion in theory and practice, you can count them on the fingers of one hand.
chrissugar
chrissugar
pucho812
Well-known member
I ment to say most a/d converters are undiyable..
MasteringComponents
Member
[quote author="Scenaria"]lundahls in the fairman?[/quote]
yes, verry fast (240 khz) Lundahl.
We heard and with the ears compared all transformers.
Lundahl remained always in it.
In Germany that is new TMA Preamp the new reference.
That is okay :wink:
yes, verry fast (240 khz) Lundahl.
We heard and with the ears compared all transformers.
Lundahl remained always in it.
In Germany that is new TMA Preamp the new reference.
That is okay :wink:
One of these days I really ought to open up my Vipres. As Rick and Aspen tell me, I've got the very first one that left their building. It was before production, and hand built. It's a great pre, but it's not the only pre I have/ use. Don't get me wrong, I love this one.
I know there are differences between mine and the current production run. I just don't know what those differences are. Supprisingly enough, I sent mine back in a couple years ago to get re-tubed and checked out and while they had it I had them convert/ match one of the new ones to mine so as to make a stereo pair. I've got to give them some serious props, it's about as close of a match as I could imagine. Especially considering all the tubes, etc.
Sorry, I guess I just decided to ramble today. Nothing major to add.
I know there are differences between mine and the current production run. I just don't know what those differences are. Supprisingly enough, I sent mine back in a couple years ago to get re-tubed and checked out and while they had it I had them convert/ match one of the new ones to mine so as to make a stereo pair. I've got to give them some serious props, it's about as close of a match as I could imagine. Especially considering all the tubes, etc.
Sorry, I guess I just decided to ramble today. Nothing major to add.
Peter Simonsen
Well-known member
[quote author="MHanson"]One of these days I really ought to open up my Vipres. As Rick and Aspen tell me, I've got the very first one that left their building. It was before production, and hand built. It's a great pre, but it's not the only pre I have/ use. Don't get me wrong, I love this one.
.[/quote]
I for one would sure love to see inside pics of your "number one"..;-)
Kind regards
Peter
.[/quote]
I for one would sure love to see inside pics of your "number one"..;-)
Kind regards
Peter
[quote author="Peter Simonsen"]
I for one would sure love to see inside pics of your "number one"..;-)
Kind regards
Peter[/quote]
Peter,
I'll see if I can accomidate you on that one. Visually, I don't think you'll see many differences with the pictures. I think it's really about different component choices, and voltages. Then again, there's also the Alesis branding on the back of it . . . from when they we're partnered for awhile.
Michael
I for one would sure love to see inside pics of your "number one"..;-)
Kind regards
Peter[/quote]
Peter,
I'll see if I can accomidate you on that one. Visually, I don't think you'll see many differences with the pictures. I think it's really about different component choices, and voltages. Then again, there's also the Alesis branding on the back of it . . . from when they we're partnered for awhile.
Michael
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