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Lukas' PCB Lab - I love handmade etching :) New
« on: April 06, 2016, 01:38:55 PM »
Hey everybody,
 
What I love about DIY is that if you're really nuts about quality, everybody seems to have a
specialty in something, where they kind of naturally fit in, be that microphone capsules, transformers
or whatever - and mine ended up being the etching of rare PCB specialties by hand. I started this
because I have a fetish in terms of vintage gear and how it was built, and love the possibilities
opened up if you have a proper etch lab. Mine's in my living room. Welcome to Living Note ;)

There are times when you want a specific kind of build, especially replicating certain vintage
devices in the same manner as was done back then, with bare handmade PCBs, rivets etc. and
you can retrace the traces with solder yourself so that your build becomes rock-solid, and retains
that vintage feel and quality.

So, with no further ado, I offer good old 1920s-1950s PCB etching, but with some modern day
implements at prices equal to the going local industry. Have fun with the pictures :)



Prices are in Euros

19ct/cm2 Single Layer, 24ct/cm2 Dual Layer

4-8€ Setup Charge per board (sizes DIN A4 - A3), Single Layer, and 8-16€ Dual Layer

25€ Digital Setup Charge for documents that cannot be directly printed, e.g. converting Eagle or other CAD output
to pictures, or stuff like that in general (resolution issues etc).

Transparencies are retained indefinitely or for 5 years, whichever comes first.

5€ minimum board price.

Immersion Tin 1€/Board Side up to 200cm2, above it's 2€

No Silkscreen, Soldermask or HAL.



Direct manual Photo process, anything black and white can be etched.

Reliable precision down to what in SMD would amount to TQFPs and Minimelfs.



Through plating with mechanical rivets, 20ct/piece.

Caveat: there is a small surrounding margin with rivets - you can't put through-plated holes
too close together, and you do need to pre-solder them to ensure functionality, but after that it's
the sturdiest connection out there - specifically, barrels don't burn out when re-soldering.



Drilling is done by hand - full range of bits always on stock, be sure to specify hole diameters in a
humanly legible way. Generally I can see what's going on but if you have some funny sizes in there
then you know...

Quality: Bungard FR4 35µ MIL-grade base material with copper from Aurubis.



Product-ish stuff by me:

Crush-N-Blend



PCB with Rivets, Both Versions – 24€

Push-Pull on/off pot 2x10k lin (alpha) – 20€ including PCB with header positions for connecting to the CnB.

Generally, Postage and Packaging is 2.99€-4.99€ for international mail unregistered, 6.99€ registered.

Have fun,

Lukas
« Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 02:48:41 PM by livingnote »
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Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2016, 08:02:16 AM »
Like! (The button is gone ;))

livingnote

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2016, 03:02:16 PM »
Cheers :)
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Rochey

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2016, 05:22:34 PM »
Excellent! Welcome home! :)
Expat Audio Home: http://www.expataudio.com

ddt

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2016, 04:26:47 AM »
Good to see you here again!  :)

ruffrecords

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 12:53:02 PM »
Cool stuff. Can you work from Gerbers?

Cheers

Ian
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


'The only people not making mistakes are the people doing nothing'

livingnote

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2016, 01:09:51 PM »
Looking into Gerbv and CAM350 at the moment - does anyone know of any other good software
for converting Gerber to B/W bitmap and the other way round, vector DXF to Gerber?
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ruffrecords

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2016, 01:48:42 PM »
Looking into Gerbv and CAM350 at the moment - does anyone know of any other good software
for converting Gerber to B/W bitmap and the other way round, vector DXF to Gerber?

I use Gerbv for checking all my layouts before send them of to be fabricated. It can export layers as pdf, png, svg or postscript. Attached is a pdf of the top layer of the latest version of the Classic Solo PCB.

Gerbv runs very well under Linux but I have found the WIndows version to be plagued with nag screens etc.

Cheers

ian
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


'The only people not making mistakes are the people doing nothing'

livingnote

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2016, 05:33:13 PM »
Ok cool - I see, no drill holes, that of course makes targeting a little harder. Would be good to learn
the various drill formats too to see if they can't be (relatively) easily converted to something vector-ish.

Ultimately for professional use though clawing my way through freeware and stuff is probably not going
to do it long term, but hey I am open for surprises.
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ruffrecords

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2016, 06:52:32 PM »
Ok cool - I see, no drill holes, that of course makes targeting a little harder. Would be good to learn
the various drill formats too to see if they can't be (relatively) easily converted to something vector-ish.

Ultimately for professional use though clawing my way through freeware and stuff is probably not going
to do it long term, but hey I am open for surprises.

Drill holes are on a separate layer (Gerber file). I just appended that one to show what a typical Gerber exported to pdf  looks like. Drill holes can be shown on the same pdf. The thing about the pdf is it prints actual size.

Cheers

Ian

Edit, I have attached another with drill holes shown.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 06:57:22 PM by ruffrecords »
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


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livingnote

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2016, 08:36:22 AM »
Alright, that's good. I guess you can do black and white exports too right?

Gonna see that I get some Linux installed here on a stick or something (god save the IT neighbors),
but even with GerbV here I do prefer PDFs because like you said, if the measurements are bang on
that way then that's one less thing that can screw up (and it saves time too). Guess I would have to
charge some kind of a small Gerber Conversion fee for direct Gerber input.
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ruffrecords

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2016, 11:50:04 AM »
Alright, that's good. I guess you can do black and white exports too right?

Yes, the colours are selectable in gerbv.

Cheers

Ian
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


'The only people not making mistakes are the people doing nothing'

helterbelter

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2016, 01:06:26 PM »
Hi Lukas !

Good to see you back here !

 :)

livingnote

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2016, 11:22:17 AM »
Taa :)
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Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2016, 02:55:07 AM »
Pcb-s looks amazing!! Keep rockin'!

JessJackson

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2016, 11:38:08 PM »
Hi Lukas,

How do we contact you?

Cheers

livingnote

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2016, 12:25:28 PM »
You can contact me at diy (squiggly thing) livingnote.com

Or just click on my username on the left and in the drop-down menu, select email.

Please do NOT send me PM's unless you have no other recourse because the inbox fills up way too fast.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2016, 05:31:15 PM by livingnote »
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Hobbyist

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2016, 03:41:55 AM »
Hi guys,

Just want to show my Gssl with the Crush-N-Blend installed.
Thanks Lukas for the help and great work !






hodad

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2016, 11:31:46 AM »
I just got some boards in that Lukas did for me--lovely work.  He worked closely with me to make sure everything would turn out as expected and got the job done quickly.   A great experience start to finish.

Tom

livingnote

Re: Lukas' PCB Lab (Etching/Designing/Basic Assembly)
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2016, 08:13:41 AM »
Thanks everybody :) Hey what kind of trimmers are those? Big long things that look like they go way precise.
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