a good mic pls

[Khron]

that's not the akg perception 420 the guy in the video was talking about!

Do you need omnidirectional and/or figure-8 patterns? Or just cardioid?

 

[micolas]

that's not the akg perception 420 the guy in the video was talking about!

The 200 is the cardioid version of the 400/420
for Voice Acting you don't need Omni/8figure

 

[micolas]

The 200 is the cardioid version of the 400/420
for Voice Acting you don't need Omni/8figure

@plautus
Read this thread:
https://groupdiy.com/threads/akg-pe...min-mod-p200-p100-p400-p420.67473/post-857099

 

[plautus]

I read it. He doesnt mention akg200. he mentions 220 and 420\

"AKG's Perception 220 is a revised version of the Perception 200; both are fixed-cardioid, large-diaphragm FET condensers. The single obvious difference between the two mics is the pad; the -10dB pad on the 200 has been changed to a -20dB pad on the 220."

Are the inner components the exact same? Soundwise same? And the only difference is that u can easier shout into the 220 bc u can lower the db easily? DO I understand this correctly?

 

[micolas]

I read it. He doesnt mention akg200. he mentions 220 and 420\

"AKG's Perception 220 is a revised version of the Perception 200; both are fixed-cardioid, large-diaphragm FET condensers. The single obvious difference between the two mics is the pad; the -10dB pad on the 200 has been changed to a -20dB pad on the 220."

Are the inner components the exact same? Soundwise same? And the only difference is that u can easier shout into the 220 bc u can lower the db easily? DO I understand this correctly?

You can scream all you want in them.
Even if you are a jet plane.
Maximum SPL=145dB
You adjust the sound as you like from a single 1 euro capacitor, to tune it to your voice.

 

[Migs 31]

Rode nt1 - mudd mess
tlm193 - an upgrade nt1, same sound, slightly warmer
tlm103 - overly bright, no wonder the unintelligent mainstream consumer loves this mic


Warm, clear, and NOT SIBILANT (the tlm103 is sibilant)

I have the solution, if you are looking for "Warm, clear, and NOT SIBILANT":

1- Sony C800 G
2- Neumann U47 (vintage)
3- Neumann U87i

Two first are some of the warmest, clearest AND not sibilant microphones I have heard in studios.
Three different styles AND three different sounds, but who correspond to your listed requirements.
I suggest you start saving your pennies though - DIY.

M

 

[plautus]

You can scream all you want in them.
Even if you are a jet plane.
Maximum SPL=145dB
You adjust the sound as you like from a single 1 euro capacitor, to tune it to your voice.

how do I tune it to my voice with a capacitor? I thought that;'s what EQ is for.
It is important that the mic sounds better (richer, a bit clearer, rounder)

as far as i know the sony Sony C800 G mic sounds too steril and sibilant. The neumanns are scammy overpriced and some r heavy or require extra equipment

i dont underrstand the quoting system here

 

[micolas]

I have the solution, if you are looking for "Warm, clear, and NOT SIBILANT":

1- Sony C800 G
2- Neumann U47 (vintage)
3- Neumann U87i

Two first are some of the warmest, clearest AND not sibilant microphones I have heard in studios.
Three different styles AND three different sounds, but who correspond to your listed requirements.
I suggest you start saving your pennies though - DIY.

M

Did you listen to Plautus' voice?
https://www.youtube.com/@PromortalistinGodmode/videos

 

[Migs 31]

how do I tune it to my voice with a capacitor? I thought that;'s what EQ is for.
It is important that the mic sounds better (richer, a bit clearer, rounder)

as far as i know the sony Sony C800 G mic sounds too steril and sibilant. The neumanns are scammy overpriced and some r heavy or require extra equipment

i dont underrstand the quoting system here

Question:
Have you ever listened to a C800 G on your own voice or in a real life environment?
The last thing I would say of that Mic is : steril
Also there are decent copies sold around for not that much money.

I have a couple of Neumann's here at home and except for the newer plasticky models (which I never bought) I don't hear the "scammy" attribute in them. If a mic pre-amp is extra equipment for you, yes I can understand you objection. DIY!
Good luck in your quest!
M

 

[micolas]

how do I tune it to my voice with a capacitor? I thought that;'s what EQ is for.
It is important that the mic sounds better (richer, a bit clearer, rounder)

as far as i know the sony Sony C800 G mic sounds too steril and sibilant. The neumanns are scammy overpriced and some r heavy or require extra equipment

i dont underrstand the quoting system here

The AKG Perception microphones have very good bass, but exaggerated highs. By tweaking a capacitor in the deemphasis circuit, the treble can be attenuated so that it sounds balanced on one voice or another.
I build or modify microphones for the customer's voice. And probably most of the people here adjust their microphones for their own needs.

 

[plautus]

how can I tune the mic? ALso can I buy the p200 and do the same as with the p220?
btw I heard the 420 mic is super heavy, is the p200 heavy too?

 

[plautus]

Ive listend to the sony on utube, very sibilant

 

[micolas]

how can I tune the mic?

https://groupdiy.com/threads/akg-pe...min-mod-p200-p100-p400-p420.67473/post-857099

ALso can I buy the p200 and do the same as with the p220?

200 is similar to 220

btw I heard the 420 mic is super heavy, is the p200 heavy too?

They have the same body
A heavy, solid, resonance-free body makes a good sounding microphone.

 

[plautus]

what about the self noise? f 16dBA, thats higher than on the Rode NT1, could bother me if i notice it. Is this the same wiht the mod>?

and the link u gave me, they mention also the change of the capsule that's more than just changing that capacitor...

 

[micolas]

what about the self noise? f 16dBA, thats higher than on the Rode NT1, could bother me if i notice it. Is this the same wiht the mod>?

When we reduce the highs by about 2-3 dB, we automatically reduce the noise. This method of Deemphasis was designed by Neumann specifically to reduce noise. A capsule is built with many highs, then the highs are attenuated and the noise simultaneously.
In real life what is below 15..16 dB noise
it is not perceptible at the end with the whole audio material, especially on YouTube or other media platforms.

 

[k brown]

Folks, face it: no matter what you suggest, it will be met with an argument.

"Captain, there is no humanoid life form in this planetary system calling NT1 a 'mud mess'."

 

[micolas]

and the link u gave me, they mention also the change of the capsule that's more than just changing that capacitor...

The Perception series capsule is the best Takstar capsule closest to Neumann. Even if you put an original Neumann capsule in Perception you won't hear much difference. The Neumann capsule has a tolerance of +/- 2%. So even very good and expensive microphones, of the same model, have small differences between them, but which in practical use do not matter.

 

[plautus]

I see.

When we reduce the highs by about 2-3 dB, we automatically reduce the noise. This method of Deemphasis was designed by Neumann specifically to reduce noise. A capsule is built with many highs, then the highs are attenuated and the noise simultaneously.
In real life what is below 15..16 dB noise
it is not perceptible at the end with the whole audio material, especially on YouTube or other media platforms.

I see. U say the 220 and the 200 are similar. Is the sound the same?
Can I buy any 680pf capacitor? there r so many variants (colors, shapes) they come in when I google it

 

[plautus]

The Perception series capsule is the best Takstar capsule closest to Neumann. Even if you put an original Neumann capsule in Perception you won't hear much difference. The Neumann capsule has a tolerance of +/- 2%. So even very good and expensive microphones, of the same model, have small differences between them, but which in practical use do not matter.

that is g ood, so i dotn need to worry about changing capsules...

 

[micolas]

Folks, face it: no matter what you suggest, it will be met with an argument.

Fortunately, I have the words with me.
I know the answers to all the questions.
I also know answers that have no questions.