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livingnote

livingnote

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Funny, I just got this tip from someone on the market - BGBR, Big Bear Mining, seem to have
a bull going on right now. They're in gold, and for the most part, that's already sailed, but
these guys are relatively new and -get this- recieved a million-dollar financing for 0.70 cents
when the stock price was at 0.76, which is not normal for inside-style deals. Predictably they
rocketed quite a deal, trend increasing because Wall Street is catching on.

But the really crazy thing is this: They let investors directly invest in the potential returns of
a mining property for 50% of the profit - i.e. - they let the millionaires take the gamble paying
85% of the acquisition, mining and exploration costs but get to keep 50% of the return. So
if the prospect screws up, the investors are screwed, but the company outperforms the risk
by retaining a 1:3 margin (15% own investment haw), and shareholdersHappy=true.

To really get the party going, they bought part of the Red Lake District, prime mining property,
from Rubicon, for a pittance, and the Rubicon shareholders are fuuuuu-riii-ous. It just might
be some stunt they're pulling because they want to try a new business model based on
über-leveraging, and now it's "performance time" so that your average millionaire wets
himself doing direct investment when he should be buying stock.

It almost lets you chuckle at their name, you know? Big Bear. They probably rake in all the
secure gold from Red Lake and let their private "investors" take whatever predictable bath
is out there...so even in worst case, they+their shareholders are a-ok. If they do find the
yellow stuff far outside of Red Lake, then of course the roof is on fire.

But they actually even win if they ride their millionaires straight into a meltdown.

But what's more likely to happen...some millionaires screwed, some get real returns.

And little bear wins on the pivot of it all due to the ratio.

How do they say? Homo homini Lupus?

marketReaction=holyShitThat'sIngeniousBuyBuyBuy

Not like I have the kinda money to do investment banking deals but to whom it may concern...

"possibly interesting" with all the necessary disclaimers ;)


But really that's one of the reasons I never went into banking because the water is full of peeps
like that. Much cooler with all me artist friends, keep that stuff out of my house...
 
Isn't it? And it was just floating around somewhere in StockWorld...but it's pretty
darn slick if you ask me. They're basically turning mining into a business format
franchise-style thing that works like McDonald's - el customero does not have to think,
they play "findDatGold", and he gets the returns for whatever success there is (or not).

I can imagine that a pack of millionaires gets horny once they initially blow sky-high
because of Red Lake, and that's all they need to propel them into an advantage
against their competitors who have to "save money" and then "buy land" like turtles.

It's the perfect casino - some win, some lose, but they scoop off 50% total return on
15% investment so the "bank always wins", and with gold where it is + crisis, I can
envision some big fishies losing their heads looking for "security", considering they got
f in the a the last two years...not even to mention the banks doing the "repackaging"
for them because some screwball trust guy believes in it and ends up melting them.

Wall Street will go "Aha, don't buy their product, buy their STOCK for chrissakes"

and goesKaboom=true
 
Not bad.

You know, it's funny.

It's not really business, is it?

It's theater.

All that people come for is an outstanding performance, nothing more.

And the meaning of a business is completely irrelevant to most of them, along with
what they have to do to get there.

As long as it performs, and it's showtime, and it lights up the sky, they're happy.

"Great, he did it, we won. Now let's go to Tahiti".

"This guy - Awesome"

And so the monsters rule the Earth.


I hope I can succeed in setting up one myself that doesn't work like that, and
still delivers an outstanding performance.

We'll see ;)

The former is secure, now it's time for the latter.
 
Yeeha. And now Mr. Big guy pulled out all the money by selling his whole thing
and all the littleFish around him got screwed.

Super!

Round 1. Applause!

Now everybody's nervous what's gonna happen, and all the forums light up.

Everybody got über-drunk last week and now it's vaporized. So of course,
major ultra internet debate.

Nobody knows what exactly, but bam, gone. What the hell just happened,
does anybody know? No - they don't either, maybe they know something, hmmm....

Guess what, kids: You just got screwed on purpose ;D

Say hello to "Little Bear".

He didn't mean you exactly, but...you know, the money was there and he took it.

John D. Rockefeller - "buy when there is blood in the streets".

So, you know, they go make some blood.

He certainly isn't doing it out of distrust in the company's future or anything but
it makes you think he did, so you go crazy trying to find out why?

Super - leads to mass viral spreading of four choice letters ;)

And that was a necessary part of the plot too because we need to do a serious course
correction to prepare for round 2.

I will now simply make a guess:

Now that the "spotlight effect" is getting secure in place and everybody's talking
about it, all it takes is for Mr. Big Guy to come in again with "we have secured
considerable financing etc" and go in again all over.

And everybody who missed last week is gonna go way nuts by a factor of 5,
because they were lurking and said dammit!

and reallyGoesKaboom=true

But like I say - personal opinion, it's just me playing here. I have no stake in it,
but I think it's fun to watch because you learn stuff ;)

Because if you look a what you don't like for long enough, you find out how to repair yourself.
 
Oh yeah this is fun...now they're apprehensive....ultra-sweet concept
but hmmmmm who wants to go in after Guillotine? Who knows....hmmmm....

;)
 
Yeah - sorry. Childhood trauma talking.

I grew up with the wrong kinda people, that's all. Where I was a kid, you're
basically surrounded by the you-think-they're-the-illuminati interbanking crowd,
and you have, like, "dinner", and all the rest while they launder away everything
from Saddam to you-know who. (9/11 was part-financed through our centers,
at least as the local scandals would have it).

So you just go crazy trying to understand how people can be this way to others,
and start analyzing, looking for conspiracy, or whatever, ill intent, you name it,
and you end up discovering that hey, generally, the peeps doing the shit are just
doing it because they have these shareholders behind them, and the shareholders
account for like 97% of all the money on Earth.

What we call "the economy" - i.e., all things produced in the world, are ca. 3%.

So, as you can see, there is no crisis. There never was one.

The shareholders never get to see what the company does, but they fire the
butt off anyone who doesn't make the stock perform.

They start finding ways to guarantee that the stock will perform, and here you
will find assembled everything from guns+drugs to mass murder to fake terrorists
to make excuses for war - everything in the kooky books.

Now you see things like GM turning Flint into a wasteland despite producing billions
of dollars there, but instead giving Michael Moore some nice fodder for his camera
by going all-out to Mexico. That just produces a line that goes up, rather than a
straight one as staying in the USA would do. And shareholders love that.

There's no conspiracy. There's just all these suit and tie guys who wanna
make the chart perform, and because the shareholders never see it, the net
result is that the biggest a-hole gets the top chair, without fail.

Crazy. But as a kid, you just go nuts trying to find the answer...and in the end
you discover...stupid system based on Win/Lose philosophy. Dog eat dog...

While most of what you read in the conspiracy theory books is correct in principle,
it's not some weird "world is in their clutches" thing (that's more like "buy this book"),
it's the logical consequence of how the market system is construed.

You can basically just assume conspiracy with evil intent, and you will end up with
something very close to the truth, not because there is a conspiracy, but because
that shit is the most guaranteed to produce a predictable and massive return,
and so they'll do it, because then the stock performs without fail (P to E & co).

And they don't get fired.

And even if they're "nice guys" to begin with...under crisis, they'll come up with
stuff like you see on youTube to save their villa+yacht+mercedes+heini.

It's not organized, but it ends up totally looking the part, i.e.

Conspiracy theorist    ----------------      Interbanking

Infiltrating Government                        Banking Deal
Starting a war                                      Banking Deal
Sending Nations into debt                    Banking Deal
Exploiting the workforce                        Banking Deal
Destroying corporations                        Banking Deal
Manipulating the media                        Banking Deal
Rigging every election                          Banking Deal
The IRS and its failure                          Banking Deal
Politicians screwing the people              Banking Deal
Afghanistan and Iraq                            Banking Deal
Good presidents getting killed                Banking Deal
Why you just got fired                          Banking Deal

3% of all money ------------------------  97% of all money
49% interest ----------------------------  51% interest
Have no say in it -----------------------    Say what goes
Pay all the taxes ------------------------  Pay zero taxes
Money comes from here ---------------    Money ends up there

You know? Happens all by itself, no coordination necessary.

Swiss guys - give me a silent nod. Swissair.

Everybody lost their savings, their livelyhood, taxpayers had to bail everything out for
1.5 billion, and the UBS said "thanks for fixing our stock value, suckaaaas", and sold
it to Lufthansa after destroying it all on purpose.

They had no other option except negative return. And funny funny, they had like 10
or so business models that could have worked, but they tossed them because the
returns were possibly at risk. This was a secure deal.

Which is why they do weird stuff like "satanist" or bla bla bla "burning of care" rituals
- they have a totally guilty conscience, and by getting über-drunk while symbolically
burning "earthly cares", hope that they can get rid of it again.

It works backwards.

And you might be "burning earthly cares", but you certainly aren't burning karma, you
monkeys. The spiritual types screw that one up too - they call it "letting go".

Taaaa taaaa. You work through the problems you create by understanding why they happen.

Like in electronics. 8)

It's really an outdated thing, you know? Actually taking responsibility...

Trilateral commission, CFR, Club of Rome etc? This is where they just meet and kinda
exchange information to help them know who is gonna blow what up next so everybody
knows where to invest etc. - Ah, and what tower not to be in on what day.

And while they're at it -> Piano bar + Hennessy VSOP.

Oh, and prostitutes, let's not forget prostitutes+secretaries ;)

"Hey honey you're back from the world economic forum, how was it?"

"Oh you know, same old same old, happy when it's over".

"You wanna have some seeeeeeex?"

"Aw honey, I'm so tired..."

Just a bunch of little kids with billions, that's all - not scary.

But can you understand why they have to do this stuff in secret?

Now you get the kooky books and MTV licks blood, seeing hey, we have this
movement of "conspiracy theorists" going on, cool, let's produce some music
to go with that - here's a band for it!

And you read the books, hear the music, and bam. Sold.

"AAAAAH They're gonna KILL ME I KNOW TOO MUCH AAAAAAAAAH"
 
Of course - I don't wanna be lonely talking about fun stuff, you know?

Well...maybe not fun but...too many peeps watch youTube and Zeitgeist
and freak, and me being an insider, I just sometimes shake my head.

Insider - right - no use to me though.

Guess who's poor now because he decided artist=better? ;)

If you don't play their game, el button gets pushed.

For me a 18K turnaround is a lot of money, for them 2.2M is "that didn't perform too well, did it?"

Not my world man, not my world. DIY is waaaay cooler. You get to keep your soul.

Almost killed dear Gustav family fab they did. Got pushed right up against the wall "you're a dinosaur"-style.
 
Funny ... or NOT so funny is that I was warned of the "Global meltdown" about 12 months before it
happened .... a friend in the Banking/Investment world.

He thought that I may have some investments that I should "move"  ... I had none !!

MM.
 
Well....DIY is way cool but it sucks away time from making music without which I would not be interested in all this recording equipment...
That's a catch 22 of some kind  :-\  anyway...slowly retireing from DIY and getting back to making music.
After 7 years of  DIY there's not much left to build.... ;)
 
Yeah - meltdown - that was us, sorry world. Stupid ideas@work.

The crummy housing bubble thing was like 10% of the prob.

The real prob was this: Local banking markets are regulated. So you can't do the screwball
on creative bookkeeping. New idea was, go offshore.

So we all did, and I got to dive the wreck of the Rhone (beautiful btw) in the BVI.

All the banks just did this trick, which is illegal locally:

Lend each other 100 billion that nobody has, but now you have this IOU against each other,
which is booked as an asset. Two signatures and you're done. So, you've created 100Bx2.

Take that asset, and hit the stock market with it.

Stock market rises like never before. For a couple years.

Everybody thinks "Wow Boom cool why am I not getting paid more?"

Now, turn as much of the stock as possible back into money and stick it in gold etc.

Market goes Kaboom, everybody gets screwed, and the housing bubble is used for Reuters
so that the people don't catch on.

And nice side effect - all property gets totally devaluated, nobody wants the title deeds
which have been foreclosed on and worthless, so the littleFish banks who own them go
kaput and get bought out by BigFish bank for next to nothing.

LittleFish bank turns the outkicking of the denizenz over to the local PD and lets them do el dirty
work, and then LittleFish bank gets vaporized.

This is after they let the taxpayers bail that thing out, right?

Let it sit there and rust until the population screams HELP!, and then the guv'mint jumps in and
pays off the hole that's there. Bank wreckage gets polished nice'n'clean and gets bought up by
BigFish Bank who now goes "yum yum".

Result: BigFish Bank now owns just about all the land that got foreclosed on, practically for free.

Bank of America, anyone? Yah - America the PWNed.

Now all they have to do is sit on that until real estate changes again and you get this.

At least the UBS got caught red-handed because they ran out of time repackiging the
crud papers into their clients' asset columns behind their backs.

Serves you right for Swissair, you morons!
 
You got it man. You got it.

They're idealists and mysticists, but knowWhichWayTheWindBlows=false.

Swine+Bird flu was another one of those ideas. Splice it together and then sell
your ass off on vaccination.

But mother nature screwed them back thank god. That shit was intended to go CDC.

So now you get them hanging up all their stupid posters at the border and their funny
TV shows before anything really happened, hoping to scare you into getting vaccinated
or their money idea goes full neg.

Not like they're any less "at risk", eh? ;)

Lezzzz waaaaag the dog!
 
Ah oh...here's a real fun one. Berlin. My hood, right? Mafia controlled by two families.

Gambling casinos everywhere. Just dot the streets.

Who would wanna gamble in the poor section of Berlin? Doesn't make sense.

Trick: Sell massive drugs, and the dealers get sent to Mr. Casino to gamble off all the money.

And they get their Opium from Mr. Bush's Pfizer who can do it semi-legal offshore, grown in...

Afghanistan, yeeha!

Because the Taliban had this anti-america strategy going on and (apart from oil stuff) were
burning the CIA's opium fields. Not good for chart. So...Support our troops!

Next thing the taxpayers get to pay for, and the Marines with their lives.

Now we have their opium getting sold in the streets of Berlin, and that money getting gambled
off to the one-armed bandit with no name.

They even pay their taxes like good dog, turning the "statistics for people who toke" officially
into "statistics for people who gamble", like "Hey did you know Neukölln was a big gambling center?".

And that's how they come walking up to our bank, so we don't get our asses kicked in Geneva.

It all takes care of itself, no conspiracy necessary. It's how you pay indirect taxes on your weed.

Ah weed=illegal right. Hearst+DuPont, not because of "It's a dangerous drug", no way. Banking Deal.

And now...they get creative. Property seizure, anyone?

Next stupid idea.
 
Ah Radiance, same here sometimes. Not enough guitar.

But what's really cool is that I'm getting in touch with people like
corporate OEM designers who got semi-kicked for designing circuits
that sounded - get this - too good for the product line, and their protos
got "disappearetized" while they were given the blame.

So from a corporate level, we're still in the 70s for Analog, and through
my platform I hope I can give these guys a pipeline to bring out their stuff
for the communities, at the same time enabling a quality level that's become
flat-out illegal (right RoHS and WEEE, guess who? ;) Who paid for Wall-E?).

As long as my cashflow works out and I don't end up burning myself ad interim,
then I'll have created an awesome Win/Win situation, because I can pipe all the
cool stuff nobody's heard about right out onto your bench.

And then you can - yeeeeeeehaaaa - make music with stuff you can't even buy.

Power to the people. You can't change the system, so you at least might change
your world. I mean hey - it's all we got.

And we'll never be living in a better world if we don't succeed in creating one ourselves,
because with those guys? notGonnaHappen=true.
 
Oh and sorry guys for ranting and raving like that but I'm just frustrated about how the world works.

It's like there's a padlock on "let's actually build a better future together".
 

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