British House of Commons

[DaveP]

Treat yourself to the whole lot

Just about sums up how we feel

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2015/dec/03/hilary-benn-airstrikes-vote-speech-full-must-confront-isis-evil-video

DaveP

 

[sahib]

If you look at a map of the specific area where the incident took place, there is a finger of land where Turkish territory juts into Syria, this ownership is disputed, and reportedly Assad owns some property in this disputed section.

There is no dispute.  Syria has always fantasised that it owned that land.

After the  Turkish Republic was found the greater area which is originally called Hatay had its own autonomy for a short period of time. At that time a very stiff politics were going on between Turkey and Syria and the match ended 1-0 toTurkey with Hatay's decision to join Turkey. Syrians still bury their heads in the sand, insisting that it was the other way round.

The situation was the same between Irak on Musul and Kerkuk, both became no man's land.  If I am not mistaken Turkey still has a case for that.

Batum (North East) was a different story. It was Turkey's own goal. When the peace was declared the communication with the Turkish troops was way too late to tell them to stay there before they pulled back.

 

[kambo]

The situation was the same between Irak on Musul and Kerkuk, both became no man's land.  If I am not mistaken Turkey still has a case for that.

yes, its kind a time locked deal...  thats way the borders need to be re_drawn, soon...

edit: btw, there are some unpublished documents about the region...

 

[JohnRoberts]

If you look at a map of the specific area where the incident took place, there is a finger of land where Turkish territory juts into Syria, this ownership is disputed, and reportedly Assad owns some property in this disputed section.

There is no dispute.  Syria has always fantasised that it owned that land.

After the  Turkish Republic was found the greater area which is originally called Hatay had its own autonomy for a short period of time. At that time a very stiff politics were going on between Turkey and Syria and the match ended 1-0 toTurkey with Hatay's decision to join Turkey. Syrians still bury their heads in the sand, insisting that it was the other way round.

The situation was the same between Irak on Musul and Kerkuk, both became no man's land.  If I am not mistaken Turkey still has a case for that.

At the moment Iraq is angry about Turkish forces in Iraq territory without Baghdad's explicit permission. While Baghdad is not that supportive of their own Kurds they are unwilling to let Turkey run roughshod in the country.

JR

 

[sahib]

They may certainly be angry but if they can not control their borders (which they can't) then Turkey or any other country will have the right to do so. Plus of course the historical situation of Musul and Kerkuk.

I should have also mentioned Cyprus. It also became a no man's land after the collapse of Ottoman Empire. Then the new Turkish Republic, Greece and Great Britain became the joint guarantors. Again when the safety of Turkish population was undermined during 70s Turkey intervened. Strangely enough the Turkish population now does not like mainland  .