'Mechanical bootstrapping' ?

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clintrubber

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Out of curiousity, I was wondering if there's a simple mechanical equivalent or example of the kind of bootstrapping as we know it. I saw the term mechanical bootstrapping is out there, but it seems to be something else.

For electronc circuits the concept is all clear to me, but when translating it to the mechanical world there doesn't really come an easy example to mind right away. I guess the 'ah yes of course' is only a few responses away :wink:

So far I'm stuck with 'sitting in a sailingboat and blowing into the sail', but that's something else altogether and can't work.

So in the electrical domain bootstrapping obviously works, but is there a mechanical equivalent ?

Thanks,

Peter
 
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The mechanical equivalent of bootstrapping requires a gain stage to add energy to a signal. I guess one possible example might be power steering on an automobile. Where the effort to turn the wheel is reduced by a power assist, but in some designs you still get some road feel or resistance back so it's not just a simple high impedance input, low impedance output, in the forward direction only.

A simple lever might be more like a transformer in how it multiplies or divides force by lever length to convert the same input and output energy into to more force over a smaller distance, or less force over a greater distance, like the turns ratio.

JR
 
[quote author="bcarso"]SuperGenius.

If you knew the man, it said it all :grin:[/quote]
Self-appointed.... hmm, but could he sail by the method mentioned above then ? :wink:
 
Well, he did have a Corvette, which seemed remarkably out-of-character.

At one point a Human Resources employee, who moonlit as a bouncer at a tough club in town, opined to him that he must get lots of free oral sex administered from having such a sexy car. Those of us who knew him a bit better considered this to be quite unlikely.

Getting (whew!) back on topic a bit, bootstrapping is I think best seen in the context of positive feedback, in turn a subset of feedback in general. So any mechanical analogies for feedback should be extensible thusly.
 
Constant velocity carburetors.

The carburetor uses a small air port at the intake to control a slide which lifts a needle that allows more gas through per airflow.

Variable impedance = proper air/fuel mixture per air flow

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> a simple mechanical equivalent or example of the kind of bootstrapping as we know it.

I suppose we all know that Baron Münchhausen was able to fly by pulling on his own bootstraps. Or hair. Or so it is said in books by Raspe and Bürger. That IS where the term comes from. And appears to be a purely mechanical process.

Joystick controlled vehicle. Push on the joystick, an amplification system (engine) moves the vehicle forward.

The tricky part is: we normally ride such a vehicle.

Get off and walk alongside, pushing the joystick. You must walk a mile to move the vehicle a mile.

Now get in. Push the joystick, vehicle moves forward, bootstraps your butt and arm. Now you can move the vehicle a mile with a peak motion of one inch.

Heck, this even works with a conventional automobile foot throttle. Except it is nearly inconceivable that you would move a car by walking alongside with your hand on the foot pedal. (I've done it on a tractor, and it IS awful stupid, and I still limp.)

> one possible example might be power steering on an automobile

Yes. You apply motion to the steering link. If the amplifier (pump and piston) are failed, you must apply large force. If the pump works, the initial motion opens a valve and applies oil pressure to a piston, following your motion, until the valve is closed. Force is greatly reduced.

That may be the clearest example. I think in most cases of mechanical boostrapping, the bootstrapping is so nearly indispensible that the machine would not be useful without bootstrapping, and we tend not to see it as such.

Here's another though not usually implemented as bootstrapping. A rudder (airplane or boat) is usually hinged at its leading edge. If the pilot/captain lets-go, the rudder tends to self-straighten, which is often the best thing to do. However on large planes/ships this leads to large steering forces. An alternate is to pivot the rudder part-way from front to back. The area ahead of the pivot tends to cancel the pivot-force exerted by the area behind the pivot, but the total boat-turning force stays high. If you pivot near halfway (more or less depending on edge effects), the turning effort tends to zero: infinite bootstrap. If you pivot behind center (or run a powerboat in reverse carelessly), the least turn tends to want to slam the rudder all the way: positive feedback. You need a couple more conditions for outright oscillation, but the potential is there.

A conventional butterfly throttle works with a halfway pivot and turning effort is near-zero despite air stream; high bootstrapping. Classic US choke flaps are off-center butterfly throttles (above the fuel jet for mixture enrichment) so that at high air-flow (where choke enrichment is not needed) they may self-straighten against a light spring; partial bootstrapping.
 
PRR I think you filled in a couple of small holes in my knowledge there... specifically power steering, and the light-spring/offset-pin choke setup.

Thanks!

Keith
 

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