Mic Pre Gain Steps

[buildafriend]

You could always do stepped with a switched fine adjust pot, but I think 3.33 is fine by it's self

 

[JohnRoberts]

You could always do stepped with a switched fine adjust pot, but I think 3.33 is fine by it's self

3.3333 seems difficult to label, and I can't imagine telling somebody to give me another 3.333dB of gain.  :

JR

 

[ruffrecords]

3.3333 seems difficult to label, and I can't imagine telling somebody to give me another 3.333dB of gain.  :

JR

It is but the reason for this step size is that I only want to label every third one which will be nice multiples of 10 so quite easy to label.

Cheers

Ian

 

[abbey road d enfer]

3.3333 seems difficult to label, and I can't imagine telling somebody to give me another 3.333dB of gain.  :

JR

Your typical muso just utters "louder", wouldn't know a dB if it bite his bum.  ;D

 

[ruffrecords]

Your typical muso just utters "louder", wouldn't know a dB if it bite his bum.  ;D

if it did I guess that would result in an F#

Cheers

Ian

 

[JohnRoberts]

It is but the reason for this step size is that I only want to label every third one which will be nice multiples of 10 so quite easy to label.

Cheers

Ian

So 10dB with two dots in between... that works.

JR

 

[Gold]

It’s easy to write down as well.  101, 102, 302,303....

 

[ruffrecords]

So 10dB with two dots in between... that works.

JR

Exactly. Numbers only  at 12 o'clock, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock, dots or dashes in between.

Cheers

Ian

 

[CurtZHP]

Exactly. Numbers only  at 12 o'clock, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock, dots or dashes in between.

Cheers

Ian

If you really wanted to be a smarta$$, put actual clock numbers on the panel.

 

[5v333]

in the end, its up to the eyes to decide i guess.

make 2 or 3 variants in your designer/cad program,make pdf prints and AB test with your optic nerves.

or even better, publish thoose variants here and let us vote!

 

[ruffrecords]

or even better, publish those variants here and let us vote!

OK, here is the original.

Cheers

Ian

 

[ruffrecords]

And here is is with 3.33dB steps.

Cheers

Ian

 

[Gold]

I'm not a fan of using the whole rotation. If you want to use the whole throw I'd make the first mark a dot instead of a dash for clarity.

 

[abbey road d enfer]

I'm not a fan of using the whole rotation.

I tend to agree. Although I could get used to it, I am a bit put off by having maximum gain in what is generally a neutral position. Maybe rotating the legend by 15° would make it more acceptable, with lower gains on the left, higher gains on the right, medium gain on top and nothing in the 6 o'clock position.
In fact, I've often been embarassed with the fact that in a narrow space, putting legends on the east and west position is an issue, so I've often solved the issue by putting legends in the 7 o'clock, 10 o'clock, 12 o'clock, 2 o'clock and 5 o'clock positions, but then it was with a 300° rotation (potentiometer or 11-pos rotary), but I think it could work similarly with 12 position and 15° rotation.

 

[kambo]

its a no for me

 

[5v333]

to answer your question

i dont think anybody will think much about what the steps are between every 10db. you turn till you are happy.
i first thought you were gonne write all thoose decimal values around the knob.

actually i think one could even skip any db labeling. max value and nothing else for ex.
to do good gainstaging requires a meter. otherwise your really blind... def..!

is your picture part of a mixer or just for a stand alone channel?

 

[ruffrecords]

is your picture part of a mixer or just for a stand alone channel?

Both really. It is intended as part of a mixer. Beneath it will be a 3 band EQ and beneath that a routing module (AUXes and Pan) and lastly a fader.  But it can be used stand alone in a rack - a dozen will fit across a 19 inch rack space.

Cheers

Ian

 

[ruffrecords]

I tend to agree. Although I could get used to it, I am a bit put off by having maximum gain in what is generally a neutral position. Maybe rotating the legend by 15° would make it more acceptable, with lower gains on the left, higher gains on the right, medium gain on top and nothing in the 6 o'clock position.

Like this?

Cheers

Ian

 

[5v333]

my vote is on that last.

 

[Tubetec]

It kinda does look better in the third version you showed , but Id take the version with the extra gain positions in the lower range anyday , I often find with my tube mics that I need less than 30db gain on loud signals, I often use line input for mics on high level sources too ,upping the input impedence means less load on the transformer and slightly cleaner performance at high levels .