Motor transistors keep dying on me

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Great! This has been an interesting journey, and probably frustrating for you at times.

The rectifier bridge motor control circuit is quite ingenious; I actually built a small prototype on the bench when you sent the schematic just to see how it worked!

Good luck with the machine!

Mark
 
Thanks so much for your input throughout the thread. This has indeed been quite the journey. But I think we can say that the dual run cap was the issue. In the future id love to switch to dc motors. But that's a project for the distant future.

Yes, it is a really smart solution. Glad my schematic could be of use.
 
So I was an idiot and wired up the run cap wrongly. Now it works, no more dead transistors, BUT the take up motor is quite weak. I guess time to change the other caps as well

Whaaat?????

Good job I am not there.

You would be subjected to recording 16 bars of C9b5 on an out of tune guitar for this.

Good news. Weldone.
 
Not really - a rectified audio signal controls the transistor feeding one leg of the bridge which then in turn controls the AC audio fed through by shunting it to ground like a volume control - the AC audio signal doesn’t pass through the diodes in the bridge. In the motor control circuit the AC to the motors passes through the diode network - different system.
 
Not really - a rectified audio signal controls the transistor feeding one leg of the bridge which then in turn controls the AC audio fed through by shunting it to ground like a volume control - the AC audio signal doesn’t pass through the diodes in the bridge. In the motor control circuit the AC to the motors passes through the diode network - different system.
Yep! In my "childhood" in this biz, I first recall seeing that design in the Ampex MM1100 multitracks. Earliest versions were (in)famous for blowing up the Delco branded power transistors. Big clue....power up the recorder with no tape loaded and one (or both?) of the reel motors would run full torque.

Bri
 
Yep! In my "childhood" in this biz, I first recall seeing that design in the Ampex MM1100 multitracks. Earliest versions were (in)famous for blowing up the Delco branded power transistors. Big clue....power up the recorder with no tape loaded and one (or both?) of the reel motors would run full torque.

Bri
Yep, I always tell people with the 1200 to make sure right side idler arm is dis engaged and to the right.
 
Yep, I always tell people with the 1200 to make sure right side idler arm is dis engaged and to the right.
IIRC, the dying motor drive transistor problems were greatly reduced by the time the MM-1200 machines were introduced. Nevertheless, it was still a problem for years. Somewhere I have a copy of a series of mods for the 1200's collected by.....the Record Plant studio????

Bri
 
On this machine I don't need the dbx unit. The noise floor is ridiculously low. But on my 85-16 I use dbx on everything except piano and drums. I don't know why I get less tape his on the 90-16. Perhaps better bias oscillator?
 

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