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I am getting some strange browser behaviour when surfing at groupDIY. I keep getting this message 'transferring data from paypalobjects.com' that just sits there a lot of the time and never seems to complete. If I click on the Brewery for example, instead of going straight there, my browser jumps up a couple of inches and then goes there. Does not happen when composing a message, only when browsing.

Cheers

Ian

PS, this happens on Linux and windows and android with firefox and with chrome.

I have doscovered if I click the X nect to the forward/back buttons it stops, until I load the next page.
 
Try deleting cookies for paypalobjects.com. The domain is used by Paypal for payments, I think for third-party websites

Nick Froome
 
pvision said:
Try deleting cookies for paypalobjects.com. The domain is used by Paypal for payments, I think for third-party websites

Nick Froome

Thanks Nick. That worked great for Firefox just now. I will try it on the others tomorrow.

Cheers

Ian
 
Hi Ian

it is a good practise to set up your browser to auto-delete cookies, temp files and browser history etc, when you close your browser down.  AND - go back and do it manually once a wek or so as browsers don't clear out everything.    It is amazing how much junk is downloaded when you open a session.

Cheers

Mike
 
Better delete cookies on a regular basis (like weekly or more often). Otherwise all sorts of odd behaviour, including slowing down.
 
madswitcher said:
Hi Ian

it is a good practise to set up your browser to auto-delete cookies, temp files and browser history etc, when you close your browser down.  AND - go back and do it manually once a wek or so as browsers don't clear out everything.    It is amazing how much junk is downloaded when you open a session.

Cheers

Mike

Clearing temp files I can understand. Browser history is very handy as it saves having to type in whole URLs. For example I just type g to get groupDIY.com. Cookies I don't understand. They were supposed to be little chunks of web site specific data the web site could write and then interrogate later. Unless the web site concerned wants to interrogate a cookie I cannot see how it slows the computer down unless it takes a significant time to search for the cookie.

Cheers

Ian
 
Sometimes there is a desire to go back in the days of MS-DOS, when computers did only what the user wanted ...
 
Having to type in whole URLs? I never do that. Could use Bookmarks or just search engine.  After thorough cleaning I search for 'groupd' and the URL pops right up, first entry.

I use DuckDuckGo search engine. No tracking. It can be shocking to see what the Internet looks like when most ad content is no longer shown. No more clutter, just relevant info. Saves me more time on a daily basis than it takes to type 'groupd' once in a while.

Still requires cleaning off dust collected in background though.
 
I know it bugs me when every time I open Firefox health report, it says I'm sharing data. I click it off, return and it's back on...... Maybe it's like a fridge light and every time I open it, it turns on......

Haven't figured it out.......
 
I usually open three tabs. In one I type c and up pops customtubeconsoles.com, in the next I type m and up pops my google mail account and in the third I type g and up pops groupDIY. I guess I really ought to set them up as bookmarks on the bookmark bar then I could get them with one click and clear the history.

Cheers

Ian
 
In Firefox you can pin them, so they open automatically every time you open the browser.
 
It has started again. This time it is epnt.ebay.com that is holding things up. I checked cookies but there in not one for this URL so I deleted all cookies to do with eBay. No change.

Cheers

Ian
 
I've been using the free CC Cleaner....Seems pretty thorough and haven't had any funny business in a while..... Curious if anyone has any thoughts on it....

One of the best things I did for internet hokiness was using Black Vipers Windows system disables....I went performance for most everything that was fair game and I disabled quite a few things I hadn't realized were running in the background..... YMMV for sure as everyone's needs are different.... I'm still on windows 7 too...
 
I've found that quite a few strange effects are caused by a slow or out-of-date DNS. If you use your ISPs DNS for lookups, try switching to different servers

DNS converts the server name (such as groupdiy.com) to an IP address (104.27.163.34 and/or 104.27.163.24). If the DNS server is slow or overloaded, or if the data is stale, you can get odd results

If your request to the DNS contains multiple domains (such as ebay.co.uk and paypalobjects.com) the requests will be answered at different times and the page may fail to load fully while it waits for a response

Google has a number of DNS servers including 8.8.4.4 and 8.8.8.8. I have been using those for a while and never had a problem. They are on different subnets & networks so, even if one network is unavailable, the other one is likely to be accessible. And each one will be served by a large cluster of machines

Nick Froome
 
Thanks for the tip NIck. When we moved house I went over to BT for my ISP and I did not have these problems before we moved so that may be it. Now I have to work out how to hack into BTs router to change them.

Cheers

Ian
 
I switched to duck duck go search also ,maybe its more limited than google but it find all the sites I want to go to at any rate . I set my browser to dump everything it can on close down also ,no searchbar suggestions either.
I also use the privacy badger and with that you can lock out third party sites completely if you want ,sometimes it hampers website functionality in small ways ,but that your not getting directed to dozens of other places each time you hit a site it speeds things up a lot . Typing the full URL for any site would be a pain ,just typing 'group diy' in search brings up this place at the top of the list everytime ,Im happy enough with that . I wouldnt mind trying VPN's but Im really clueless on where to begin with it . I had a funny issue a few years ago when I was claiming a  suplementary payment from department of social welfare , in an interview I was asked twice if I had anything to do with or earned money through forestry ,funny thing was  I had a few months previous posted a pic of myself in the backgarden in working clothes sun glasses helmet with a hedge cutter on a small closed chatroom , bit of a weird co-incidence , I personally suspect the department here to be colluding with the service providers and illeagally intruding into peoples privacy, proving that could be difficult ,but certainly possible with the help of forensic IT specialist .I might as well post this on Ruairi's personal security page as well as theres some crossover on the topic.
 
I use CC cleaner on a regular basis. After a few weeks only it gets rid for me of some several hundred MBs of dirt, dust and 'user-friendly' data collections, including such very un-useful stuff such as 'list of recently opened files' (literally since day 1) etc etc.

Anyone installing CC cleaner, start gently on the settings. It gives many options. Read very carefully what you tick/check before running it. You might want to delete cookies and all histories of all browsers (and the OS), but not bookmarks and sessions.

Always create a save return point before cleaning. And be particularly careful with all 'advanced' settings. This software is very powerful (too powerful for some!) and the advanced settings do very thorough cleaning -- actually to the point that they can wreck a working system.

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Over the last 10 years I have fully lost patience with any OS. I delete stuff on a regular basis and run CC cleaner. But if a system still thinks it wants to slow down on me, I no longer fiddle around any more these days. I go: format C and fresh start. Unlike time spent on DIY electronics, for me it's easier to install that bit of software I really need in one go than spending hour after hour trying to fix a bodged OS that just wouldn't want to work properly. I never have vital data or files sitting on machines anyway. It's all external, so I can switch or work on different ones easily.

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Duck duck go might hamper with a few sites. I have never noticed it though and I don't feel I miss anything. Once in a while I want to see Xmas aesthetics, then I use google or yahoo -- but usually to bright for me  8)
 
> work out how to hack into BTs router to change them.

In The Old Days, I wrote each machine's IP, gateway, and DNS numbers on the rock with a burnt stick.

DCHP requests IP/gateway from any willing server (your router), and optionally DNS.

In Windows through Win7, you *can* manually set DNS.

And I do that as soon as an ISP turns DNS failures into their own ad-page.

See attached. Control Panel, Local Area Connection, Properties.., TCP/IP (probably v4), Properties.., :
Automatic IP (DCHP)
Automatic DNS  --- change to 'Use these DNSes!'  (Google DNSes shown)

Historically, you get your DNS from your ISP. If you work inside MegaCorp you better use their DNS (so their admins have your machine under their thumbs). When you pay $xx/month for a consumer ISP the DNS is included. It is rude (but perfectly possible) to use some other DNS, and most do not object, but why demand a service you don't pay for?

Google clearly expects its DNSes to be called by "total strangers". The costs are small in the G-Empire, and the machinery gets expanded with Google's general datacenter expansions. (Unlike the phone company, which is loathe to expand the machine.) There is some economy-of-scale with a large DNS server, particularly in caching popular look-ups and refreshing that cache.

Write-Down your ISP (default) DNSes! While Google is pretty reliable, they could go down. When all sites fail at "Looking up", you may need to get off G-DNS until they get fixed.





 

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