Sennheiser MD409-U3 still possible to repair?

[niva]

Hello!

Attempted to clean the diaphragm of this "nice looking" Sennheiser MD409. There was unknown debris and some gluey substance on the diaphragm.

At first, the mike was still working but was sounding very dull.

After carefully and successfully cleaning the membrane, the capsule just died: the voice coil mesures infinity.

You can see on the picture that there is a small piece of red enamel wire in the center of the diaphragm (inside).

So... is there something I can do myself? Or anybody out there that could repair it?

I could ship the capsule anywhere.

Thanks!

Guillaume, Québec, Canada

 

[panman]

That peace of coil in the middle and the looks strongly indicate, that it was "repaired" before. By cleaning the gluey substance from the diaphragm you unfortunately managed to cut at least one of the coil ends and so the mic is dead now. From now on it really is not DIY-job anymore. Nevertheless, it is not forbidden to try. The diaphragm needs to be removed(without destroying it!). The broken coil-end is now too short and the other one may also be broken or will likely be broken when you have managed to remove the diaphragm. Then the coil end(s) need to be pulled out to be long enough, but only one end is possible to be pulled out by you, if you are lucky. The other one? Well, that requires professional skils and experience. If it is long enough to be soldered back, fine. Then you need to clean off all the glue from the capsule and the diaphragm and also the magnet gap has to be cleaned from iron particles. Now let`s hope one of the coil-ends came out enough and also the other was not cut(you managed to solder it out and it did not brake). Now the coil-ends will be soldered to the lugs. Then the diaphragm can be glued back with slow drying glue, that you can center and tune it to sound right. Carefull, that the glue is not going to wrong places! It is important to check, that the diaphragm is perfect and without dents. The dents usually can be pushed out from underside, but if any tiny defect remain, it will not sound with full bass. You also need a known to be fully to specs MD409(they rarely are) to know if your repair sounds right. Good luck! And even if your trial goes ashtray, you can always send it to me for repair.

 

[panman]

Especially the MD409-U3 and BF509 models seldom sound right, because the black plastic-foam used as a shock-mount/windscreen has deteriorated into sticky goo and penetrades under the reflector sticking on the diaphragm. Many times it is too late to save the diaphragm. Those foam kits are still available or they can be replaced with foam, that has the same properties.

 

[Piotr]

Especially the MD409-U3 and BF509 models seldom sound right, because the black plastic-foam used as a shock-mount/windscreen has deteriorated into sticky goo and penetrades under the reflector sticking on the diaphragm. Many times it is too late to save the diaphragm. Those foam kits are still available or they can be replaced with foam, that has the same properties.

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Hi !
you mention the foam kits as available, where would you source them from ?
Thanks !

 

[panman]

You can try here: Schaum Ersatz-Kit. Passen Für Sennheiser MD 409/509 Mikrofon Neu # 49 | eBay.
I have not tried that kit myself, but looks right.

 

[enzo]

That peace of coil in the middle and the looks strongly indicate, that it was "repaired" before. By cleaning the gluey substance from the diaphragm you unfortunately managed to cut at least one of the coil ends and so the mic is dead now. From now on it really is not DIY-job anymore. Nevertheless, it is not forbidden to try. The diaphragm needs to be removed(without destroying it!). The broken coil-end is now too short and the other one may also be broken or will likely be broken when you have managed to remove the diaphragm. Then the coil end(s) need to be pulled out to be long enough, but only one end is possible to be pulled out by you, if you are lucky. The other one? Well, that requires professional skils and experience. If it is long enough to be soldered back, fine. Then you need to clean off all the glue from the capsule and the diaphragm and also the magnet gap has to be cleaned from iron particles. Now let`s hope one of the coil-ends came out enough and also the other was not cut(you managed to solder it out and it did not brake). Now the coil-ends will be soldered to the lugs. Then the diaphragm can be glued back with slow drying glue, that you can center and tune it to sound right. Carefull, that the glue is not going to wrong places! It is important to check, that the diaphragm is perfect and without dents. The dents usually can be pushed out from underside, but if any tiny defect remain, it will not sound with full bass. You also need a known to be fully to specs MD409(they rarely are) to know if your repair sounds right. Good luck! And even if your trial goes ashtray, you can always send it to me for repair.

Hi, I have a 409 too, still not working and very probably even more damaged by the last technician that tried to repair it. Any possible solution to repair it with you?

 

[panman]

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[bleachboy]

Hello everybody.

I have recently acquired a BF509, which obviously suffers from the usual deteriorating foam. It sounds fine but the capsule is slightly moving inside of the grille. I have successfully opened the mic up, cleaned both grilles with a toothbrush and desoldered the capsule. But there is a lot of gunk on both sides of the capsule, obviously.

How can I clean all the gunk that’s left ? I have immediate access to artist’s brushes 99,9% isopropyl and demineralized water.

Thanks a lot !

Louis

 

[krikor]

Hi
I have a simillar problem with my BF509, I'm not sure it is fixable on my side, @panman if you can take a look at It and tell me if you can fix it!
thanks
K