Edited. Now on Soundcloud.Uploading .wav's as attachments here doesn't seem to work, btw...
You already provide the saddle. I am sure most of us can figure that out on our own.As of right now I'm not sure. I will have them made
Thank you, I like your voice + guitar playing and would prefer the 3U M7 capsule for this combination (and the room) as I find the Flat K47 a bit overemphasized in the lower midrange.Here are a couple of tracks.
Miktek CV4 with FlatK47 and 3U M7 --> Manley Slam Pre --> Apogee AD16
Disclaimer: This song is a cover (Stand In Your Love: Josh Baldwin). I recorded this for my own comparison only, so don't hate. If it's useful for you, enjoy.
Thanks Rock. The FlatK47 takes EQ soooo well! Just a slight boost in the highs REALLY makes this capsule shine. To my taste and ears, the 3U M7 is too scooped in the mids. With that said, I would probably be in line for the regular K47 from Arienne. My 3U M7 is probably going on the market soon.Thank you, I like your voice + guitar playing and would prefer the 3U M7 capsule for this combination (also the room) as I find the Flat K47 a bit overemphasized in the lower midrange.
Just my 2 € cents
I hope it's OK to post this stuff here! I am just excited because I bought one of Soliloqueen's flat k47 capsules a couple of weeks ago and finally had some time to try it out and I'm very impressed. I love it.
I'm a saxophonist & audio engineer, and the thing I've noticed about recording saxophones over the years is that the 3khz range is right where saxophones usually sound really bad. At least on my sound, and my tenor especially, I really don't like it and usually end up cutting there in a mix. But ribbon mics are also not my thing on tenor, at least not by themselves, and if I use one I usually feel like it needs a 47 style condenser mic tracked at the same time to blend with it so it's not too dark and muddy sounding in the mix.
I got a great deal on a used Bock 47 some years ago which is my usual go-to on tenor. I have this other mic I built from a Micparts kit when I first started building stuff called the T-47, it's like a large diaphragm capsule + a km84 style circuit. The kit came with a RK-47, which I guess is an Asian origin K47 style capsule. I always thought this mic sucked and was too bright for my horn.
I just put the flat Soliloqueen capsule in the T-47 and was really floored with how much the sound of the mic changed. For me it became way better and especially on my tenor sax, I would actually use this circuit and capsule combination on a recording! Love it.
For the sake of anyone interested I decided to post the 3 demo files I made for myself to compare the 3 mics and especially the RK-47 capsule vs the Soliloqueen flat k47 capsule. The recording chain is the same on all 3 mics, an AML 1073 500 series preamp into a Mytek Brooklyn ADC. Tried to level match best as possible.
Hope the demos are interesting for people interested in these capsules. The Matrix picture has nothing to do with the test I just needed a placeholder image. I will be buying some more of these capsules for other projects! Very interested to hear the K-87's.
Oh my. That FlatK47 is mouth-watering delicious. Hat's off to the 'queen'. Well done!Here are a couple of tracks.
Miktek CV4 with FlatK47 and 3U M7 --> Manley Slam Pre --> Apogee AD16
Disclaimer: This song is a cover (Stand In Your Love: Josh Baldwin). I recorded this for my own comparison only, so don't hate. If it's useful for you, enjoy.
https://on.soundcloud.com/NMfJq
https://on.soundcloud.com/4YLfs
Now I'm especially curious to hear this in a 47FET w/ kick, e-bass, upright bass...I agree with rock. the way the flat k47 responds to mid low and low end pressure means you really don't want to use it in any sort of space that has buildup there. it's a very room sensitive capsule.
I am planning to try that with mine. I don’t record much vocals, mainly drums and instruments. I have a Heiserman 47fet which to my ears sounds amazing although it is very bright. I am going to build 2x FET47’s next month and plan to try this Soliloqueen flat 47 capsule, an Rk-47 capsule, and hopefully eventually a Soliloqueen regular k47 in it when those are available. I also will try M7. I will post demos here when they are done. I expect it to sound best with a regular k47 capsule. Not sure which one to go for at the moment until Soli’s is availableNow I'm especially curious to hear this in a 47FET w/ kick, e-bass, upright bass...
There is a such thing as being too sensitive to low frequencies. I've heard the flat k47 bottom out from the change in air pressure opening the booth door. it trends towards omni in the bass and extends very low. the capsule is basically a barometer below 50hz. I would be curious to hear it, but it might be a bit muchNow I'm especially curious to hear this in a 47FET w/ kick, e-bass, upright bass...
For me, the thing that really caught my attention, as someone who is driven crazy by sibilance issues, is the way--especially in the 2nd half when the vocal is in a higher register--that the sibilance region feels very cleanly and naturally captured with the flat 47. By comparison, it feels to me like the 3U M7 not only emphasizes the sibilance region a bit, but adds a bit of its own sort of noisy texture to it--it almost brings out a faint whistle aspect. I have 2 mics with Thiersch PVC M7s and I do not get a similar impression of the sibilance region when using those capsules. But it's also, imo, extremely difficult to conduct a fair test and, although I think there probably is something to what I say about the 2 M7 flavors (3U and Thiersch), comparing my Thiersch M7 experience to the 3U recording referenced above is around 1,000 miles from any kind of calibrated test.Here are a couple of tracks.
Miktek CV4 with FlatK47 and 3U M7 --> Manley Slam Pre --> Apogee AD16
Disclaimer: This song is a cover (Stand In Your Love: Josh Baldwin). I recorded this for my own comparison only, so don't hate. If it's useful for you, enjoy.
https://on.soundcloud.com/NMfJq
https://on.soundcloud.com/4YLfs
my comment was meant to be a bit more agnostic than perhaps taken. but i'm still interested enough to build one to see how it works out on said sources. so, given the tendency for this capsule to be more omni in lows, would that also imply proximity effect is not as pronounced?There is a such thing as being too sensitive to low frequencies.
Hello..Thanks for this..!..Sounds good..The Flat 47 sounds like a "record"..Gotta get me one..!Here are a couple of tracks.
Miktek CV4 with FlatK47 and 3U M7 --> Manley Slam Pre --> Apogee AD16
Disclaimer: This song is a cover (Stand In Your Love: Josh Baldwin). I recorded this for my own comparison only, so don't hate. If it's useful for you, enjoy.
https://on.soundcloud.com/NMfJq
https://on.soundcloud.com/4YLfs
This is partIy why I am hoping combining it with a tiny, hipassing beyer output transformer in a FET847 buiId wiII baIance out in a great way....There is a such thing as being too sensitive to low frequencies. I've heard the flat k47 bottom out from the change in air pressure opening the booth door. it trends towards omni in the bass and extends very low. the capsule is basically a barometer below 50hz. I would be curious to hear it, but it might be a bit much
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