I need to meet your yoga instructor, because you bend over so far backwards trying to defend Trump that you could be in the damn circus. Why? Why do you love this man so much that you're willing to forgive even his most egregious and obvious misdeeds? To the part of the world that is still rational, you sound like a fool. You're not stupid, but why do you feel compelled to make yourself look stupid by saying such ridiculous things in defense of Trump?
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I need to meet your yoga instructor, because you bend over so far backwards trying to defend Trump that you could be in the damn circus. Why? Why do you love this man so much that you're willing to forgive even his most egregious and obvious misdeeds? To the part of the world that is still rational, you sound like a fool. You're not stupid, but why do you feel compelled to make yourself look stupid by saying such ridiculous things in defense of Trump?
crazydoc
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Nobody's changing any minds here - we're all locked in. Might as well be entertained.
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About 30% of the Germans voted for the national socialist german workers party which had "good' ideas to gain a wider appeal. Once in power the game changed.
People were fooled by simple ideas and simple slogans.
People were fooled by simple ideas and simple slogans.
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I'm not changing minds with anything. The most convincing factual evidence seems to go nowhere. I'm trying to understand why intelligent people, when presented with pretty overwhelming evidence, not only continue to refuse to follow the evidence where it leads but seemingly refuse to consider the notion that "their" guy might actually be guilty.
As is often noted, you can't reason people out of positions they didn’t reason themselves into.
"With reasonable men, I will reason; with humane men I will plead; but to tyrants I will give no quarter, nor waste arguments where they will certainly be lost." - William Lloyd Garrison
"With reasonable men, I will reason; with humane men I will plead; but to tyrants I will give no quarter, nor waste arguments where they will certainly be lost." - William Lloyd Garrison
One could say the exact same thing about the evidence compiled against the Biden family influence pedaling. There was another public hearing yesterday.
Hunter Biden refused to show up despite demanding a public hearing only a few months ago. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...ion-says-hell-only-testify-in-public-hearings
I found it pretty amusing when AOC declared that RICO was not a crime. https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria...k-questions-over-donald-trump-charges-1881581 I guess this means the Fani Willis RICO case in GA should be dismissed?
Demonizing the opposition is not an opening argument, but this campaign is getting nasty quickly... There is still a long time to go.
Convincing the undecided voters are still in play and for this reason the SCOTUS case is important (IMO).
JR
One could say that. But they would be wrong. Even their star witness in yesterday's hearing stated, "The only information ever pushed on the Bidens and Ukraine has come from one source and one source only: Russia and Russian agents."
"Opening argument" is a curious description of statements on the futility of arguing (with certain people).
PermO
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So to send a simple item (PCB) to the USA I have to fill in a bunch of paperwork to get it trough customs.
Where is it from ? Who is it for ? What is the value ? give item description.
But I can just walk across the border carrying a gun and a bag of fentanyl.
Your open border policy still has a long way to go...
Or I just don't get it
Where is it from ? Who is it for ? What is the value ? give item description.
But I can just walk across the border carrying a gun and a bag of fentanyl.
Your open border policy still has a long way to go...
Or I just don't get it
Russia, Russia, Russia...... (same song, different day).
Are you suggesting that Tony Bobulinski (navy veteran) is a Russian agent? Democrat rep Jamie Raskin ( a lawyer) interrupted Bobulinski's opening statement trying to dismiss his comments. Perhaps Raskin was upset because Bobulinski called him out for lying. That is pretty much Raskin's modus operandi.
JR
PS: DEI= didn't earn it
AnalogPackrat
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I'm simply pointing out the errors in many of the attacks against him. I try to do that for anyone unfairly accused.
I don't love him. I wish there were better candidates. Given the choice between a dementia-riddled sock puppet and a deeply flawed, loud-mouthed NYC Yankee, mostly government outsider, I'll take the outsider. No one can even tell me who's really running this administration. Then I compare the last three years to the previous four. Even with his missteps on the Covid response (because he allowed people like Fauci to make too many decisions), pretty much everything in the US was better then than it is now.
Looking back I think we peaked in the late 80s to mid 90s. After 9/11, USA Patriot Act, formation of DHS, mass internal surveillance, cancerous growth of administration in education system, Citizens United, and the neo-racist movement of the last 10-12 years it has mostly been downhill. Top it off with millions of illegal aliens entering the past three years and we're in trouble.
It's not all on the Democrats. The neoconmen did a lot of damage, too. Who is willing to push back on many of these problems? Biden? Harris? Garland? Hell no. Trump? Probably. The choice is clear whether I like it or not.
Your perception is yours alone. Do you really want four more years of what we've gotten from Biden/Harris?
I simply stated my view that real estate valuation by sq footage is not some simple excel formula when it comes to extreme custom luxury properties. Clearly he overstated the size, but the valuation is more than just that and the bank accepted it. Ex post facto rationalizations to the contrary are stupid.
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AnalogPackrat
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You know nothing about how I reached my conclusions because you refuse to accept anything I've said about how I did so.
You refuse to question your own position and then want to preach to others who have (and subsequently reassesed their outlook). You want to pretend that Trump is the tyrant when it is the permanent, unelected and unaccountable bureaucracy that is the real tyrant. And the Biden admin and Democrat congressmen are all-in on more government, more laws, more control, and higher taxes to pay for it. Big government is not humane nor rational.
So who is reasonable, the person backing more government or the one pushing back on it?
No, I'm suggesting that there is no "evidence compiled" per your statement. Bobulinski testified that he believes Biden committed crimes, but was unable to provide any evidence.
By all means, if you can point to concrete evidence, please do so.
Not sure who you're attacking here.
There is a growing list of bank transactions that are not explained by any other valid business purchase. Then there are President Biden's participation in business meetings and phone calls where Hunter's business transactions were discussed. Not to mention his emails using a fake name.
He and others testified under oath that they witnessed President Biden in activities that are arguably illegal. When he tried to cite seval of the laws broken to AOC she famously answered that "RICO is not a crime." Remarkable that she was trying to lecture Bobulinski about "laws".
There are many emails and bank transfers that suggest payoffs from foreign influence purchase transactions. The Biden family are well coached to conceal bribe distributions as "loan re-payments". AFAIK no evidence of valid loan transactions exist. If this grift has been going on for decades as many suspect, the participants have been well coached to conceal the "big mans" finger prints.
Peter Schweizer's book "Red Handed" describes the established Chinese government practice of "elite capture". Elites targeted for capture do not personally receive the gifts, but instead their family gets the gifts to provide the captured elites plausible deniability.
I have shared my speculation before that President Biden was not expecting to become president so Hunter's aggressive influence pedaling was supposed to last the family after VP Biden retired.
I am attacking the DEI movement that is so corrosive to merit based societal advancement. It's as if our enemies are actively trying to make us even weaker than we are making ourselves with this woke nonsense. I didn't feel like starting a new thread just to share this one humorous characterization. "Didn't earn it", IMO is funny because it's true.
JR
Repeating Comer's insinuations is not concrete proof, or even circumstantial evidence, when they are so easily debunked, regardless how much one wishes them to be true.
You mean when he refused to get specific.
I actually watched the exchange. AOC kept interrupting Bobulinski and wouldn't let him finish answering the question.
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Keep spinning.
JR
PS: Bobulinski's opening statement is full of red meat..... but he has been trying to give evidence for years regarding this matter.
https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Bobulinski-Written-Statement.pdf
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Keep spinning.
JR
PS: Bobulinski's opening statement is full of red meat..... but he has been trying to give evidence for years regarding this matter.
https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Bobulinski-Written-Statement.pdf
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Matador
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Maybe we could get Durham to investigate. I hear he's not busy these days (or are we still waiting for that "shoe to drop"?)
Investigations of Biden: "There's a hint of smoke in the air! That means there's a fire, and Biden definitely lit it!"
Investigations of Trump: "Unless I can be shown an actual burning fire, along with a video that clearly identifies Trump lighting the match, where he faces the camera and says, "I am Trump, and I am lighting this fire!", a dozen eye witnesses, and a signed, notarized statement from Trump saying the same, then it doesn't matter how much smoke there is, it's just a politically motivated hoax."
Investigations of Biden: "There's a hint of smoke in the air! That means there's a fire, and Biden definitely lit it!"
Investigations of Trump: "Unless I can be shown an actual burning fire, along with a video that clearly identifies Trump lighting the match, where he faces the camera and says, "I am Trump, and I am lighting this fire!", a dozen eye witnesses, and a signed, notarized statement from Trump saying the same, then it doesn't matter how much smoke there is, it's just a politically motivated hoax."
Word for word transcripts are spin now, I guess.
they can be...Word for word transcripts are spin now, I guess.
I hate videos, but watch this one if you think AOC is smart.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ent-probe-witness-tony-bobulinski/ar-BB1kfl5B
JR
Smirnov is the Russian agent (at the very least a collaborator with Russian intelligence.) I mentioned that and posted links a couple weeks ago. That comes from uber-Republican special counsel David Weiss.
Being in the Navy, or Army, or FBI, does not preclude being a Russian (or formerly Soviet) agent. I would speculate that you remember enough espionage cases to know that the "Navy veteran" defense is weak sauce. Having said that, I'll also note that I don't think Bobulinski is likely to turn out to be a Russian agent. Of course, from what I read of his testimony, he didn't have anything all that damning to say to the committee.
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