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living sounds said:
how come right wingers still buzzing around in Germany with such power!
on the other hand here in LA some people thinks majority is not educated enough to know difference between socialism and communism ... but, same people cant decide how much socialisms they want... Senders is too much, others are too little :
living sounds
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kambo said:
They exist in every country. Thankfully in Germany they do not have significant influence on politics and their overall number is much smaller than in the US. And there is some collective memory remaining regarding the fatal consequences of totalitarian regimes.
There is generally a structural correlation with areas that went through hard times economically, are more isolated/rural and comparably lack in (higher) education.
We also have overall high and increasing economic inequality and an unregulated social media landscape. And plenty of people who lack critical thinking skills.
living sounds
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kambo said:
https://www.distractify.com/p/what-is-happening-on-march-4-2021
Wow. It's become a regular cult now, postponing the day of deliverance ad infinitum.
iturnknobs
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https://republicangazette.com/2021/01/in-a-completely-unexpected-development-biden-admits-his-biggest-campaign-promise-was-a-lie/
Idiots. Trump said the virus would miraculously go away and it is documented that he and his administration were trying to achieve herd immunity by social spread(killing at least 6 million people, if successful)while knee-capping almost all health care services in the process. The rightwing media was talking about Biden breaking campaign promises in the first day. Now he's pushing to get 300 million vaccinated by the end of summer. States and the federal government are now working in concert to improve inventory tracking and distribution/administration. I AM KEEPING SCORE.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-officials-told-governors-they-will-increase-weekly-vaccine-allocations-to-states-11611693766
Maybe it's time to force those chumming the waters to "give Biden a break, man!" You right-wingers know what I am referencing. Conservative trolling fail... I'll take note of that one, also.
edit: America still NOT FIRST. Israel is already vaccinating 16 to 18 year old age group. We earned some negative points there.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/
Idiots. Trump said the virus would miraculously go away and it is documented that he and his administration were trying to achieve herd immunity by social spread(killing at least 6 million people, if successful)while knee-capping almost all health care services in the process. The rightwing media was talking about Biden breaking campaign promises in the first day. Now he's pushing to get 300 million vaccinated by the end of summer. States and the federal government are now working in concert to improve inventory tracking and distribution/administration. I AM KEEPING SCORE.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-officials-told-governors-they-will-increase-weekly-vaccine-allocations-to-states-11611693766
Maybe it's time to force those chumming the waters to "give Biden a break, man!" You right-wingers know what I am referencing. Conservative trolling fail... I'll take note of that one, also.
edit: America still NOT FIRST. Israel is already vaccinating 16 to 18 year old age group. We earned some negative points there.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/week-after-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-shot-only-20-of-128000-israelis-get-covid/
crazydoc
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living sounds said:
So X-Day is March 4. It's about time.
Never going to happen. For me this started when OBama took office and the Republicans didn’t cooperate With him and then the birth certificate drama. Then when trump took office the Dems resisted all things trump and took it a step further with Russian collusion BS and a multitude of other things. Fake news along with the change in news from information to clickbate drama 24 hrs a day, Twitter and others, have created something that needs unwound but IMO without throwing out the constitution. There is freedom of efxpression and thought and liberal or conservative, both Views need protection and are, with the constitution.
Now if you expect the pubs to embrace Biden or not point out the problems and infringement with EO’s your dreaming. It’s fair game for the other-side. Unless big tech plays 1984 on us or has it already done that? Unless they want a pay increase for congress or tax cuts for corporations, Nothing gets done. It’s two parallel worlds out there.
Also I’m really tired of grouping 78 million people as terrorist because they disagree with dem opinion and wonder while the fight goes on , “But their all bold as Love” just ask the axis.
JHE
iturnknobs
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Yes. Operation Warp Speed...HA! The attached article shows that 50 million doses were available by Pfizer alone by end of 2020. There were only 2.8 million doses administered by Jan 1st. The article also shows that 500 million more could have been purchased and Trump administration did not. States and Federal government have had virtually no cooperation until the Biden administration because previous administration was attempting herd immunity through social contact and lies. 2 countries compared. We lost. Amend score card again.kambo said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/14/covid-vaccine-us-passed-on-more-pfizer-doses-in-november-says-board-member-gottlieb.html
iturnknobs
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Deep, bro. Url referencing is tough... My pillow guy(UNTUCKED)...kambo said:
fazer said:
Anti-democratic. Because they voted for someone who attacked the right of American voters to choose their leaders. And this was not a secret before the election. Trump made it perfectly clear, in both word and deed, that he was going to try his level best to subvert the presidential election. If you, or 70-odd million Americans who voted for Trump, think that tax cuts are more important than (reasonably) free and fair elections, then say so. Don't be cowards. Tell us you hate Democrats (and sadly, for many Republicans, it's especially the black and brown ones) so much that you'd rather vote for a treacherous, gifting, lying wannabe dictator than someone with a "D" after their name.
Seriously. Do Republicans not realize what almost happened here? Are they that self-deluding?
iturnknobs
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Well, I find mild relief that you didn't catch my right-wing media reference, but it would appear the misinformation machine has it's grip on you. Divide and conquer really holds up.fazer said:
...and this racist display of misinformation wasn't enough to make you denounce the party and/or anyone who peddled this theory? Wow.fazer said:
...like installing Scott Pruitt as head of EPA after he called to end the EPA?fazer said:
...like installing a Big Oil CEO as Sec. of State?
...like pulling out of an international climate agreement?
... like putting children in cages and separating them from their parents?
...like the 1776 project?
...like eliminating hundreds of environmental protections?
I provided audio services for Gen. John Kelly in 2019. In a room of thousands of right-wing nut jobs, while giving his presentation he said verbatim(and boldly): "LET THERE BE NO QUESTION. RUSSIA ABSOLUTELY INTERFERED IN OUR 2016 ELECTIONS."fazer said:
Misinformation and conspiracy theories are way more present in right-wing media. This is documentable. Clickbait is an issue on each side, but there is real drama in the past 5 -8 years surrounding the GOP(they did hire a reality TV host with no political background with questionable bankruptcies)fazer said:
No one but the owners of each of these corporations have a "right" to have their voice heard on these platforms. Misinformation being censored is not even close to a constitutional infringement. You CANNOT yell "Fire!!!" in a crowded theater and... We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone(especially those who yell "Fire!!!")fazer said:
Biden's EOs are primarily "rewinding" Trump's EOs which IMO were cruel, unfair and unhealthy in many cases. EOs to push oil through people's lands against their will without profit sharing are generally the first EOs issued. The EOs in response are just attempting to restore fairness and environmental responsibility.fazer said:
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone... this is not infringement of rights.fazer said:
Agreed. I'm hopeful that voting rights/reform occur to start changing this.fazer said:
Are you really going to make me fill a page full of URLs documenting GOP members ignoring, embracing and pushing violence as a result of losing a fair election? The constituents need to speak up and out against these actions/people, otherwise, 1/6/21 was just a rehearsal.fazer said:
pucho812
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Ah the kids in cages. was started in 2014. The news even used photos from 2014 and blamed trump. Cps will separate child and parent if the parent commits a crime and the child is present. So say a parent is driving drunk with their kid in the car, the kid gets taken away by cps while the parent gets processed according to the law. Coming into the country illegally is a crime and the kids get separated from the parent. They also do things like confirm that is actually their parent they are illegally crossing into the us with.
I see you want to blame media for misinformation. I would agree seems you have some of it too.
I see you want to blame media for misinformation. I would agree seems you have some of it too.
iturnknobs
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The Trump administration gutted the immigration system of judges to hear asylum cases to intentionally increase the separation policy's effect. Documentable.pucho812 said:
I really wish the media wouldn't have used those images, but they probably didn't have any others. A temporary situation is MUCH different than a blanket policy for all. If you actually read the attached article, you will find that many of those children in the images arrived WITHOUT parents and were not "separated" by cruel policy.
Here's a URL(amazing) to clear up your misinformation. The fact that you try to make an analogy between driving drunk with your child vs. clawing your way towards a glimpse of a normal life with your child is just incorrect. Just say you hate brown people. The discussion would be less cryptic.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-27/presidential-immigration-debate-fact-check-and-who-built-the-cages
edit: I can only deduce that it's either racism or media induced tribalism through propaganda that influences your hatred for others who are different that are trying to make a better life for themselves.
pucho812
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fazer said:
You are were I want to be
pucho812
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iturnknobs said:
As a half mexicano I am shocked you make such assumptions. But then again the legal folks who are Mexican feel the same way I do about the illegal immigration policy. I also wouldn’t use a fact check by the l.a. times. I live out here and they are extremely biased. So much so that they think the current California government is doing a wonderful job while at the same time abc7 the local abc affiliate says “ Chronic homelessness in LA County expected to skyrocket by 86% in next 4 years”
crazydoc
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Most of my patients throughout my career were undocumented monolingual Mexicans and Guatemalans (who keep the American economy going.) They explained to me how those who are here legally feel about them using the "crabs in a bucket" analogy.pucho812 said:
Of course, this is how pretty much any ethnic or social group feels about the other members - it's just human nature.
