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Coils/crystal. I ordered the Spectrum 5u3HH coils and some cheapo K87 china capsules, and all the capsules tested in the 42-52pF range, which got me concerned at first, but the microphone worked honestly extremely well with the capsule, within 2pF for C4, and 10MHz crystal.
I did try out to swap out the crystals, I do believe there were mentions of Ruud using even a 12MHz with success. Placing the mic between my headphones playing a 1kHz tone, 52pF LDC capsule + 51pf C4, Behrry UMC404HD input gain set the same, both T1 and T2 tuned after each swap to max, I got:
10,00MHz, -42dB
10,70MHz, -36dB
11,06MHz, -28dB
So, obviously there is an increase in sensitivity, but I still haven't gotten into the realm of microphone testing.
There was a mention of a C3 'SOT' (also what does that stand for?) compensating for capsules with less capacitance, but it adds noise then, right? I also think someone mentioned that even the lower capacitance capsules will works, just will be somewhat less sensitive with no more extra noise? Speaking of noise...
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Distortion. What software did you use to determine your distortion (THD%) for RF.AMX10 and competitors? The other day I was trying to learn what capacitors are for, following this neat article:
Practical Test & Measurement - Stop Worrying About Coupling Capacitors!
I made the tester and my goal was to measure THD in different types of capacitors, with the intention to prove or disprove the polyester vs polypropylene cap noise superiority. However, I myself own a UMC404HD which is my first audio interface and one I'm extremely happy (especially for the price), but I couldn't get THD under 0,2%, no matter what I tried with the components, tester or inputs, but then realized it's definitely the UMC404's preamp (apparently a Midas preamp ain't a Midas PRO preamp).
Rogs, have to tried to measure distortion with your UMC404HD? Their website doesn't specify THD levels (like Scarlett does) for the model, and I know Sound Devices are quality stuff. I don't know if the problem is in the tester I built or the limitations of a really-affordable sound card, because I would definitely like to give distortion testing a try.
I used REW to try and analyze cap distortion, but THD would always be way higher (THD 0,1-0,2% for caps assumed to be 0,01%), except for ceramics, which were about 0,2% - ceramics are definitely not recommended for audio signal paths.
Apparently, you could use REW to test microphone preamps (without the capsule) for distortion in this method. I'm not sure how, and haven't tried it, but maybe it could be useful in seeing where the problem lies, without the capsule.
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Padding. Is there a relationship, like equation, connecting the RP1 value to how much dB it will pad? I installed:
RP1 2,2k and got about 15db padding
RP2 1,0k and got about 20dB padding
but I didn't measure them too precisely, I will have to redo those tests.
I implemented Khron's idea to put the pins and the small jumper to act as a pad switch, but I put in a row of 4 pins instead, so that the jumper doesn't swivel when only on one pin (visible in the attached photo; padding is set off). Working great so far.
Speaking of which,
@Khron, thank you for your PCB design contributions! I actually learned new things from your design, I'll send you a PM when I prepare questions and ideas about the PCB's design, and hopefully I can help contribute too.
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Multipattern. Rogs, you mentioned you don't think multipattern is feasible, but specifically in this, one oscillator design, right? Is there any point in perhaps making two oscillators run one dual-membrane capsule, connected to one JFET? I do believe there were mentions there might be interference from the other oscillator, but I'll be willing to test that out if you hook me up with a schematic. Alternatively, that is solved by using a housing bigger than a BM800 (i.e. I just got a fake U87 mic, and it definitely has enough real estate to ensure there is no interference.) I accidently ordered a three-wired capsule(front memb., back memb., with connected backplates) instead of a single membrane, so I'm invested now
Regarding the coils... As you may have already realised, there are 2 types of Spectrum 5u3H IF transformers.
The initial type supplied was called '5u3H' and the devices were simply marked '5u3'.
That was the type I used for the first year or so of the project experiments.
In 2020 a second 'high stability' version became available - type '5u3HH' - and those are marked '5u3H'.
The listed specification for those is slightly different, and they do indeed perform differently from the original coils, in some respects.
(Details of both types on this page:
SPECTRUM COMMUNICATIONS )
The stock of the original coils is now exhausted apparently, so all current and further orders are supplied as type 5u3HH. In some ways these 'seem' to be better. More consistent, and the tuning 'seems' more defined, for example.
In other ways they are quite different from the original coils .
When used with capsules in the 90pF + range, the original coils worked better with an 8MHz oscillator.
That is not so true with the newer coils. They seem to function best with an 8MHz oscillator where the capsules (or to be more accurate, test capacitors!) are within the range of 120pF to 150pF. Much more difficult to find as 'real world' capsules!
It would be interesting to see if anyone else does attempt this project using alternative inductors?
As I have always said, my project is just one experimental offering to the original challenge presented by Gerard in his first post.
There are some expert design engineers and hobby experimenters on this forum. It maybe that other folk have already taken up Gerard's challenge, and have yet to publish their designs ... who knows?
Regarding your comment about C3, the initials 'SOT' stand for 'Select On Test'. In reality, I've never used C3.
It was originally intended for use with lower value capsules, to bring them into the 'tuneable' range of the inductors, but I found it tended to reduce sensitivity quite dramatically, but without reducing noise.
My distortion measurements were simply approximate 'ball park' comparison figures. I used a Neutrik MR1 audio generator, coupled to a Sennheiser headphone transducer, via a Hypex UCD100 class D amplifier.
The software was a freeware spectrum analyser from this site :
Visual Analyser
I was able to establish that introducing the transducer/microphone components into the signal path increased the distortion figure by a factor of around 10.... From around 0.003% to 0.03%.
What I was not able to establish was how much of that distortion was introduced by the microphone under test, and how much by the transducer?
Hence only simple 'comparison' test results, using the same signal path, but with different microphones.
As for measuring 'distortion' introduced by different capacitor types, I shall leave that for others to comment on.
As far as I can deduce, here is much nonsense written when it comes to discussing this aspect of microphone construction, and I have no real expertise myself, when it comes to sorting out the science from the 'fairy dust'.
I have personally found very little measurable difference in any 'distortion' introduced by different capacitor types. I know other folk will probably disagree on that!
As you will have already deduced, the current PCB layout includes a number of revisions that Khron very patiently added to his original layout, as the project progressed. I remain very grateful to him for his contribution. Without it, I don't think many people would have tried to build examples of this project?
The pad resistors were added at one stage, but as they reduce the 'Q' of T2 secondary loading, I have tended not to use them, but rather simply reduce the oscillator amplitude, where a lower sensitivity is required.
That reduces the noise floor as well, while maintaining the system 'Q', which is an important part of this concept.
Multipattern... I did try out both a figure of 8 and an omni version of the AMX10, and they worked quite well - especially the figure of 8, which actually requires one less component than the cardioid version!
What did become apparent is that the introduction of different values of capsule capacitance means that each version requires different inductor tunings. So a simple 'switched' version is not really practical.
When it comes to introducing additional oscillators, then I don't personally think it's going to work.
As ex Calrec designer 'Ricardo' (Richard Lee) commented early on, he had tried this out some 30+ years ago, and had given up. Too many problems with 'birdies' (audio signal 'tweets' introduced by interference between 2 or more RF oscillators).
I can confirm that siting 2 identical AMX10 microphones - in BM800 bodies - next to each other with the body 'sleeves' removed renders both mics unusable. Audio frequency 'interference' from the small difference in RF oscillator frequencies. Important to remember also that AM modulation - like FM - generates side bands.
Personally I - like Ricardo - think that the use of multi RF oscillators within a single enclosure is not going to be a good idea.
This has been a fascinating project so far. But the detailed technical reasons behind why there seems to be quite a lot of variations in the quality of (apparently) very similar examples has yet to be established....
The actual maths behind the inductor/ capacitive 'heart' of the project remain elusive.
Academic folk who have been kind enough to take a look so far have all reported that there are too many unknown 'variables' to make any meaningful calculations.
So it is currently left for us experimenters to post what we discover..... And some of the observations do currently seem to result in some 'head scratching' on occasion