gar1731 build thread

[Indecline]

So i finally got around to checking this one to another, and, yea.... it was silly mistake on my part. The diodes are oriented the correct way.. just not in the correct positions!  :-X

Thanks a million Gary!

 

[biosynth]

hi,
please how  to sold mill-max pins please?

 

[gar381]

biosynth..

there are lots of good ways.  This is one of my favorites
borrowing some of chungers picts from this post:


http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=48610.msg613811#msg613811

for other ways try google

best

GARY

 

[biosynth]

thanks a lot.
on your pdf file, mill-max are soldered in last, so i was in difficulty, but it's seems to be ok.

another question, is it wrong if CD1 and CD2 are in contact with the near mill-max on your gar1731?
thanks 

 

[gar381]

biosynth..

If you use chungers method, Install the pins right after CD1 and CD2 at
the beginning of your build. 
The V+, V- and G pins are connected to these caps as they are
for PSU decoupling.  No problem If there is a  solder bridge to them.

Best..

GARY

 

[Terryb]

Is there a way to test a build without plugging it in to a preamp?

 

[gar381]

Is there a way to test a build without plugging it in to a preamp?

You can build a jig and use an external PSU,signal gen and scope.
(If you are building lots of DOAs this might be worth doing.)
or you can just stick it in a preamp and see if it works.

five fish has a nice jig if you want to go that route but looks
like there is a waiting list..

http://www.fivefishstudios.com/diy-kits/op-amp-test-jig

GARY

 

[Craig32768]

Hi Gary - Built a 1731 plugged into the socket in the VP28 nearest the output transformers.  Resistors R14 and R15 burnt out as soon as power on. I've checked for shorts and the diodes appear to be in the correct place. What's the common thing that may cause these to burnout and I'll try and double check it all. Seems to be the same issue that zmgwg was getting but can't see that they posted an update to any issue they found.

Update: Looks like I've got BD139 and BD140 swapped around incorrectly. Will I have smoked these too when R14 and R15 burnt out?

 

[gar381]

Hi Craig

You got a good chance that the "BDs" are OK as They are hardy souls.
Get them in the right holes, replace R14 an R15 then give it a shot.
If things get warm fast shut it down fast then replace the BDs

Best

GARY

 

[Craig32768]

Hi Craig

You got a good chance that the "BDs" are OK as They are hardy souls.
Get them in the right holes, replace R14 an R15 then give it a shot.
If things get warm fast shut it down fast then replace the BDs

Best

GARY

Hi Gary - thanks. I can confirm that the BD139 and 140 being the wrong way around were responsible for R14 and R15 burning out. All good now. Thanks for your quick reply. Craig

 

[berkleystudios]

how crucial is it to have matching 550c's? if its that big of a deal can someone post a test circuit? i know they can some times be different based on the specific transistor

 

[gar381]

Hi Adam

Any cheap multimeter with a hfe socket will work fine.
+/- 5 is close enough but I try to match +/- 2 or better.

even this guy will work

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pocket-Digital-Multi-Meter-Tester-Ohm-DC-AC-Volt-Amps-hFE-best-for-DIYer-V-/200921289059

GARY

 

[gar381]

Note: Dec. 7 2013

MURATA IS DISCONTUNING THE RPC SERIES OF CAPS USED IN THE gar2520 and gar1731!!

The RPE series is being replaced with the RCE series.  I will be phasing these in as my RPE
Stock diminishes. I will be using either 50v or 100v based on availability.  For you guys buying
Raw PCBs and sourcing your on parts here are some part numbers:

10p 50v..    RCE5C1H100J0A2H03B
10p 100v. .  RCE5C2A100J0A2H03B

39p  50v..    RCE5C1H390J0A2H03B
39p 100v..  RCE5C2A390J0A2H03B

47p 50v..    RCE5C1H470J0A2H03B
47p 100v..  RCE5C2A470J0A2H03B

680p 50v..  RCE5C1H681J0A2H03B
680p 100v.. RCE5C2A681J0A2H03B

1000p 50v.. RCE5C1H102J0A2H03B
1000p 50v.. RCE5C2A102J0A2H03B

In a pinch the AVX COG SR15 series...
50-100v 5% with a lead spacing of 2.5mm (.1”)
Should work fine as I have tested these

 

[iampoor1]

Could someone send me the build PDF?

Got a few gar1731's for Christmas and my mother accidentally deleted the email with the PDF! ;D

iampoor 1 (at) a t t (dot) n e t

 

[toobnoob]

Putting the Diodes into non correct holes can also cause R14&15 to burn out

 

[mus1k_freak]

another fun 1731 build  8)

 

[Cosmonaut]

Hi, I have bought a gar1731 kit in the black market, and didn´t realized that I don´t have the pdf, somebody?should I contact Gar or Jeff directly?

 

[gar381]

Just shoot Jeff an email and he will send it to you Cosmonaut.

GARY

 

[toneboner]

+1 for smoking one by incorrectly placing the bds into each others slots. I hope I only smoked the 10r's... I don't have the pdf in front of me but is there a chance there is not enough emphasis placed on this step ? Not trying to blame the instructions, they are about as clear and well documented as I've ever seen.   wish I'd seen this thread earlier!

EDIT: upon further review RED BOLD CAPS falls just short of punching my soldering arm. maybe we should be forced to read a schematic for component placement, then we'd pay attention!

 

[toneboner]

Amazingly, it's working great now after correctly placing everything and swapping out the burned r's. As much as I've tortured the board with de soldering it probably shouldn't work. Guess those bd's ARE tough!
seems like I can drive it harder than the gar2520 - really "sings" in overdrive. Just like yall said it would