great british spring reverb tank replacement

[salomonander]

hey
one of the spring tanks in my great british spring reverb has a broken coil and needs replacement (accutronics). problem is that there is no part number on the tank. im pretty shure that its a type 9 but i have no clue which exact version.
does anyone know perhaps? i also have the same tank - working (other channel). in case it is possible to measure this somehow. thanks a lot

 

[MagnetoSound]

Sure, just disconnect the working coils and measure DCR. Multiply this by approximately 1.33 and you have your nominal AC impedance.

 

[PRR]

1.33 works for loudspeakers, but I think Hammond Springs have a higher ratio.

There IS a table on-line somewhere with nominal (audio) impedance, DC (ohm-meter) reading, and type-numbers.

Also the coil form color implies the nominal impedance.

 

[salomonander]

1.33 works for loudspeakers, but I think Hammond Springs have a higher ratio.

There IS a table on-line somewhere with nominal (audio) impedance, DC (ohm-meter) reading, and type-numbers.

Also the coil form color implies the nominal impedance.

my coils are yellow.... well ill just call up accutronics tomorrow. looooong distance call i guess
does anyone know if it is possiblee to swap the coil only - not the entire tank?

 

[t9crepair]

Long time ago we bought and replaced them for much less than a new tank. I guess they caught on to that and as far as I know they don't supply them anymore. But please let us know if they do!

Here is their impedance chart: http://www.accutronicsreverb.com/main/?skin=sub05_04.html

 

[RuudNL]

Who knows the exact type number of the reverb tanks in the Great British Spring?
I measured the DC resistance in mine, and found 33 ohms for the drive coil and 722 ohms for the pickup coil.
And what type did they use? (Short/medium/long?)
It seems there once was a type number stamped on the enclosure, but they made it invisible with a black waterproof felt tip pen...

 

[RuudNL]

By the way (for what it's worth): I found that the ripple rejection of the supplied power supply can be much improved by replacing the 100 uF capacitor across the supply lines of the first TL071 OpAmp in the recovery amp (inside the reverb tank, after the 22 ohms resistor) by a 1000 uF/25V one. The improvement in hum of the recovered signal is significant.

Also I had a problem that the high frequencies in the input signal (only the right channel) leaked through in the output. (Of the left channel)
The reason for this is that the reverb tanks are stacked above each other in the PVC tube.
This means that the drive coil of reverb tank one, (magnetically) induces a voltage in the receive coil of tank two.
To solve this, I placed the reverb tanks with the open sides to each other. (so 'parallel' to each other.)
This solved the problem completely!
The only thing is that I have to find a wider tube now... (125 mm will fit.)

 

[akestromer]

Hi!

The tanks in my great british spring are 9dc1d1e.

One is missing the springs so I just requested a quote for how much a replacement tank would be.

 

[akestromer]

1 tank ended up being $68 with shipping to New York. $105 for two.

I traced one of the GBS's we have here at the studio. And here's what I came up with. I'm gonna try and draw a proper schematic for it too. But that might take a while.

 

[RuudNL]

My GBS has 2 x NE5534 in the tank driver.

 

[Electrobumps]

Hi!

The tanks in my great british spring are 9dc1d1e.

One is missing the springs so I just requested a quote for how much a replacement tank would be.

Great work on the tracing. I have a MK3 which has a the NE5534 and a slightly different layout. My DC resistance is also 35ohms I/p and 760 o/p.

The recovery amp is 2 x TL071

 

[smilan]

Hi, thanks for sharing those layouts. I would like to build a Great British Spring clone, maybe you can explain to me how the recovery PCB were connected to the springs / plastic tube on the original assembly? A picture will be awesome...