History..... rhymes?
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john12ax7
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Those who commit violence should be locked up, whatever side they are on. So you must be in favor of the Jan 6 rioters getting arrested as well?
I'm in LA, so the local news coverage of UCLA has been live and extensive. There is universal agreement that peaceful protestors were attacked the other night and the police did nothing. Now the police have rolled in full force arresting the protesters,, with many of them asking "where were you the other night?". They have a point.
That doesn't mean no violence has been committed across the country. But often these are outside forces causing trouble, or even the opposite side in an attempt to discredit a movement. Either way you don't take away the rights of the many because of the actions of a few.
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yup
jan 6 looks tame compared to the last several years of street riots. Of course any and all actual law breaking needs to be punished (with sensible DAs and real punishment for crimes)
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Do you favor equal application of the law?
I have already shared the criticism of UCLA administration, LAPD, Mayor and Gov. Even Gov Newson has chimed in (well after the fact). Those in charge responded with too little, way too late.
There would be no counter protests if the school administration shut it down the encampments in a timely manner.
Maybe they could have taken it down sooner without waiting for violence to break out.www said:
Indeed. What about the rights being denied Jewish students? Hard to believe that this is happening in 2024 America.
I get a small dose of mainstream news (ABC) nightly from my local TV station, their bias is palpable (while I am probably right of center).
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My suspicion is that Gaza and Israel are just a convenient excuse to create chaos with, here and now. These "students" (cough) probably couldn't find Gaza on a map of Gaza.
If they want to free Palestine, protest against Hamas. That is who is using innocent Palestinians as human shields, then blaming the IDF for the deaths that they precipitated.
JR
john12ax7
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Of course, as does any rational person.
You watch Fox news and find ABC extremely biased? Cmon it's not like it's msnbc. ABC is more like Fox business, there might be some slant, but mostly just report what's going on.
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glad we determined that, it seems like laws are not being enforced consistently
yup
I do not watch fox for general news but watch some fox business news shows, and fox opinion/comedy shows (like the Five and Greg Gutfeld). I read the WSJ newspaper for hard news. I watch my local TV station news for the above average local weather reports, i usually FF through the network news clips.
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Speaking of MSNBC did you see Katy Tur on Monday push back against Nancy Pelosi's partisan slanted job gains/losses screed. The Democratic spin is that exPresident Trump's administration caused massive employment losses, and President Biden gained those jobs back and more. Tur pointed out the obvious, that there was a global pandemic that complicates the literal interpretation of the data.
Nancy Pelosi did not appreciate the friendly fire coming from her own side. Nancy accused Katy Tur of being an apologist for Trump? It appears that Tur was just trying to be honest. I wonder if that is a new trend, or she just made a mistake. 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...for-adding-context-to-job-numbers/ar-AA1nTwlQ
Maybe she is trying to get hired by Fox?
JR
john12ax7
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Speaking of MSNBC did you see Katy Tur on Monday push back against Nancy Pelosi's partisan slanted job gains/losses screed. The Democratic spin is that exPresident Trump's administration caused massive employment losses, and President Biden gained those jobs back and more. Tur pointed out the obvious, that there was a global pandemic that complicates the literal interpretation of the data.
I didn't as I actively try to avoid cable news propaganda. But kudos to her for the push back. Nancy Buffet Pelosi could use a dose of reality. Giving Biden credit for pandemic related job creation is just as silly as blaming him for pandemic related inflation.
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scott2000
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Fox News? What rubbish! I have not had feevee or freevee for over a decade.
If ya wanna talk Jan 6, those folks have been held WITHOUT BAIL PENDING TRIAL.
Is that going on with any hajis or marxist agitators? Are they being hunted by our Top Cops years later?
Fox News!!
And you actually agree with me but have to drop Faux News as well because you can’t just. . . agree with me.
Thank you! We’re truly getting somewhere. I’d totally be buyin’ off the bar (sugar minott) if this were physical.
Mike
If ya wanna talk Jan 6, those folks have been held WITHOUT BAIL PENDING TRIAL.
Is that going on with any hajis or marxist agitators? Are they being hunted by our Top Cops years later?
Fox News!!
And you actually agree with me but have to drop Faux News as well because you can’t just. . . agree with me.
Thank you! We’re truly getting somewhere. I’d totally be buyin’ off the bar (sugar minott) if this were physical.
Mike
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Yep. That's him. I know of him because of his engagement in marine ecology.
If you're a simpleton, that seems quite rational. In reality, it's not. In most cases, there are aggravating or diminishing circumstances. The clearest example is self defense in cases of violence.
It's a typical puritan mistake. Reality isn't binary.
We've had a case recently, where a catholic deacon was sentenced to 27 years in prison for five murders. Nothing special, if you don't take into account these were mercy killings. Three of the five were loved ones, old and suffering from incurable disease causing endless pain. That pain had been present for years and morphine no longer could suppress it. How long is the caretaker supposed to watch their loved ones suffer?
Another one was one of his palliative patients, who had been in terrible pain for years and was at the end of pain-relief treatment.
These murders occurred before there was legislation allowing MDs to terminate life in case of extreme suffering. Today, these patients could have asked for an end to their suffering.
Of course, puritans also deny patients the right to end their own life because of religious dogma's. "God gives life and he's the only one that can take it away", is often heard. I've seen a few of these puritan's change their opinion once it was their spouse, child, or parent who was suffering. Besides, if god gives life, why does he also hand out massive suffering, usually to those who don't deserve it?
And then we end up with the beginning of any case: arrest by police. I have a feeling being a police person in the USA isn't paid enough. It's very dangerous, thanks to the omnipresence of guns and the willingness of most to use them. It's also ridiculously easy to frame anyone due to unjust legislation that sometimes differs a lot between states. And it's seldom justice in the eyes of the press and casual observers. Add a defective education system, and only the rich can find justice. There are literally thousands of examples of people who spent time in jail while being completely innocent. And it is clear that being black doesn't take you any closer to justice...
Justice isn't simple. And the way it is reported by the media doesn't help to make it any clearer.
Depends on what you mean by "very". It's not even in the top 20 most dangerous jobs. There is danger, of course, but despite the rhetoric it's less hazardous than pizza delivery, and pays a lot more.
Meanwhile, even in the liberal hellscape of Chicago (which still exists despite some assuring us it burned completely to the ground during the so-called riots of tge last few years), joining an extremist group is not grounds for dismissal.
scott2000
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Wonder if the guns they carry around bend the fatality rate a little....
Really? That's news to me.
Of course it is not. Personal freedom in one's private life is real, I suppose?
Now I don't know how the oathkeepers are being labelled. Terrorists? At least they're no commies.
john12ax7
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30+ year old men attacking college students with 2x4s. The only ones who have been arrested so far are the college students, who in some cases went to the hospital with concussions.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ucla/s/dUYb2ZqNcs
https://www.reddit.com/r/ucla/s/dUYb2ZqNcs
History rhymes ?
thats rose tinted glasses ,
History repeats the same mistakes over and over ,
Just as Hitler tried to exterminate the Jews , and so now the Jews have passed the parcel of genocidal hate down the line onto the Palestinians ,
You only have to look at the coverage of the middle eastern situation from a few different perspectives to see clearly the bias .
But many Americans are so cock sure its the its the leader of the free world its hardly worth wasting breath trying to change the brainwashed's point of view anymore .
thats rose tinted glasses ,
History repeats the same mistakes over and over ,
Just as Hitler tried to exterminate the Jews , and so now the Jews have passed the parcel of genocidal hate down the line onto the Palestinians ,
You only have to look at the coverage of the middle eastern situation from a few different perspectives to see clearly the bias .
But many Americans are so cock sure its the its the leader of the free world its hardly worth wasting breath trying to change the brainwashed's point of view anymore .
You really typed this. You really did.
This has to be a wind up, you cannot actually believe this.
Mike
Yes Mike I typed it ,
The darkest episodes in mankinds misdeads go round like a broken record ,
800 years of tyranical rule under the crown of England ,thats why the IRA exist ,
the Zionist state of Israel caused the need for Hamas to arise ,
just the same as the so called war on terror feathers the nest of Isis .
The darkest episodes in mankinds misdeads go round like a broken record ,
800 years of tyranical rule under the crown of England ,thats why the IRA exist ,
the Zionist state of Israel caused the need for Hamas to arise ,
just the same as the so called war on terror feathers the nest of Isis .
