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CJ

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anybody know what's going on with this Blackstar HT Studio 20 guitar amp input jack circuit?

never seen this one before, what's up with that fet? how is it getting switched?

thanks for any help!

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Looks like three terminal capacitor. But it doesn't make sense to use one here. According to the schem, the guitar isn't even earth grounded. I have to believe the bushing is actually connected to the metal chassis and the schem just doesn't show it.
 
Looks like three terminal capacitor.

That may be what is known as a feed-through capacitor. Usually used for filtering, the symbol would be used to indicate that it is constructed as a low inductance three terminal device. Different than I have usually seen them drawn, probably someone reused a MOSFET symbol rather than drawing the traditional feed-through cap symbol.

I found that Belton part number, it is a plastic combo jack, one of those things with a 1/4" connector in the middle of an XLR connector.

Near as I can tell the guitar isn't actually earth grounded

I think what happens is that when a plug is inserted, the sleeve part of the guitar plug connects to the S terminal in the connector, which disconnects that terminal from the signal labeled as IP_JACK and from the T terminal. The T terminal gets lifted from the switch contact when the plug is inserted, and that signal goes through the inductor L1 and to the input op-amp.
The S terminal goes through the other half of L1 (dual inductor package? Common mode choke? can't tell from symbol) then to ground through the feed-through terminal of C501. That signal going to the symbol that traditionally means "earth ground" but here is probably used for signal ground is capacitively coupled to the ring on the input connector, which I would assume is chassis.

So to sum up, after all the switch connections are moved around the guitar sleeve connection is connected to circuit ground through an LC filter, and that LC filter is referenced to chassis. So seems like a way to float the guitar ground from chassis at low frequency, but have RF filtering.
 
dang, that was fast, thanks!
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should have had some coffee this morning, written in plain English, c501 and sure enuff, ain't no fet but a 3 legged skunk

yes the jack had a hardware ring for grounding, you guys are pretty good!

gonna splice in a good ol switchraft 12a and trash that weird cap because it be causing trouble, in my mind at least,

bring back the days of the 68k-1 meg input circuit,

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looks like about 8 turns of #28 awg wound in a bi-filar fashion, on a torid doughnut of unknown dimensions and origin. combined with the 47 puff, we have a notch filter at 610 kc, this is the 50,000 watt pirate frequency of a country, hillbilly, blues and elixer doctor station located across the border from jasper new mexico.

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