It’s a generational thing rant.

[JohnRoberts]

Not sure the same tone has been used when discussing covid

For another example of hypocritical double standards look at all the lengthy citations of side effects listed for modern medicines in TV commercials (caution this medicine could kill you).

I am still waiting for the full official warning about the COVID vaccines.

JR

PS: Doctors are human so individual doctors will be different. I've encountered more good ones than bad, but had to deal with one orthopedic specialist who really irritated me.

 

[crazydoc]

Seems like you are putting words into my mouth. First, 2/3 failed not medical school but engineering school, I was talking about my own experience as a teacher, of which 2/3 failed not only my class but of many colleagues. I am not a medical doctor, I am an engineer. I was pointing out that kids during the pandemic got a lousy education, which is why I am weary of how they are going to end in a few years, that is all. The "don't go to the doctor with a degree after 2019" was just an example, not a fact. But if that bothers you, I'll change it to "dont go to a dentist with a degree after 2019" or insert your favorite profession.

Sounds to me that you took it too personally; by any chance do you currently have a relative in medical school or something? I wasn't attacking medical education, I was attacking ALL education, the pandemic screwed the education of kids and it is not entirely their fault.

I was pointing out that your snide comment, equating failures, apparently in engineering education, carried over into failures in medical education, and that in doing so you have no concept of what medical education is. After the first two years of medical school, there is almost no classroom instruction or testing. Medicine doesn't teach the right answers, because many times there can be multiple possibilities - it teaches the possibilities, how to evaluate them, and act on them. It teaches procedures and when and how to do them - see one, do one, teach one. And it uses pimping extensively (an offshoot of the Socratic method.)

https://blog.amboss.com/us/on-the-wards-what-to-know-about-getting-pimped-in-medical-school
I know no one in medical school or residency - you're just searching for things to justify your error, which was that failure in engineering education after 2019 equates to failure in medical education (without knowing anything about medical education) and apparently to failure in all education, according to your quoted post. Being wrong just isn't in your mindset.

I'll leave it at this - already a waste of time.

 

[pucho812]

After moving here, I had no primary physician. I "signed on" with a large local clinic and a very nice PA was assigned to me. But it was creepy having a guy who would have been the age of a grandson (I have no offspring) poking around on me. I switched to another clinic and now a MD who would be the age of a son (if I had one) is poking around on me.

Bri

Might I suggest a female doctor instead?
I find I prefer a female poking around on me. I find it easier and am more comfortable with it.
The best doctor I ever had was when I was a kid. Dude was a Cuban doctor who fled Castro. When he got to the u.s. he had to retake his board certifications because the u.s. did recognize his education. While working on his boards he was an orderly at the local hospital. By the time I was a kid he was at retirement age but stayed a doctor for at least another 20 years.

 

[Matador]

Irrelevant anecdotes.

The exception always proves the rule.

 

[JohnRoberts]

The exception always proves the rule.

In scientific investigations one exception can disprove a theory....

JR

 

[user 37518]

I was pointing out that your snide comment, equating failures, apparently in engineering education, carried over into failures in medical education, and that in doing so you have no concept of what medical education is. After the first two years of medical school, there is almost no classroom instruction or testing. Medicine doesn't teach the right answers, because many times there can be multiple possibilities - it teaches the possibilities, how to evaluate them, and act on them. It teaches procedures and when and how to do them - see one, do one, teach one. And it uses pimping extensively (an offshoot of the Socratic method.)

https://blog.amboss.com/us/on-the-wards-what-to-know-about-getting-pimped-in-medical-school
I know no one in medical school or residency - you're just searching for things to justify your error, which was that failure in engineering education after 2019 equates to failure in medical education (without knowing anything about medical education) and apparently to failure in all education, according to your quoted post. Being wrong just isn't in your mindset.

I'll leave it at this - already a waste of time.

I am wrong multiple times, but it seems you fixated on this for a reason that still eludes me. And, I am not wrong, if you can tell me that the pandemic didn't have any effect on the outcome of the education of students of medicine, you are naïve or know nothing about education; you can quote whatever you want, but until you experience it first hand, you can't tell.... I mean,, there are even memes out there of this, it is not like I invented it.

If this is a waste of time is, again, because you fixated on this and overreacted for nothing.

 

[AnalogPackrat]

The exception always proves the rule.

Keep misquoting like that and you could get a job at MSNBC or The Guardian.

 

[Dreams]

I wish they wanted to be astronauts. This is not the case. Also, relax, you sound so angry. Seems like I touched a nerve?

I suppose we could all have a discussion about what constitutes effective satire and how effective (or not) it is when your target doesn't understand it as such, but I'm not sure how productive that would be here

The "are you angry, why are you being so emotional, just relax" is one of those basic things that men learn how to use as a weapon against people, usually women, just to provoke when they realize their own argument is dogshit and there's no other way out except to bait the other party. It's basic and boring and i see right through it, but good try

 

[Dreams]

I represented employment agencies and my wife has managed retail clothing stores for decades - and both sources tell me young people currently do not know how to make change and cannot figure basic fractions or percentages with or without a calculator

In my day we walked 15 miles to school in the snow, uphill both ways

 

[Dreams]

Being wrong just isn't in your mindset.

I'll leave it at this - already a waste of time.

Always nice to see someone saying something sensible

 

[Dreams]

Just an absolute tidal wave of bullshit in this thread. Most of you should really just step back and focus on audio stuff, i think you're better at it

 

[user 37518]

I suppose we could all have a discussion about what constitutes effective satire and how effective (or not) it is when your target doesn't understand it as such, but I'm not sure how productive that would be here

The "are you angry, why are you being so emotional, just relax" is one of those basic things that men learn how to use as a weapon against people, usually women, just to provoke when they realize their own argument is dogshit and there's no other way out except to bait the other party. It's basic and boring and i see right through it, but good try

Seriously, you need to calm down, Dreams. You are taking Internet discussions waaaay too personally.

 

[Dreams]

Seriously, you need to calm down, Dreams. You are taking Internet discussions waaaay too personally.

Lmao are you actually just doubling down on the relax? Nothing else to say?

 

[Dreams]

Not even a comment about how you didn't understand the satire? Got any response to that?

 

[user 37518]

Lmao are you actually just doubling down on the relax? Nothing else to say?

Actually, I deleted my post. I don't want to provoke you any further... Everything seems to disturb you beyond limits, and there is no possibility for dialogue.

 

[user 37518]

Not even a comment about how you didn't understand the satire? Got any response to that?

No, everyone here, Matador, cyrano, whomever, we have discussions. But you are at a whole different level, you are extremely rude, and I do not want to engage any further. That is it.

 

[Dreams]

Everything seems to disturb you beyond limits,

This is just "relax" for the third time

I'm chilling outside on a beautiful summer night, there's a friendly cat and a cool alcoholic beverage on either side of me, knocking down bad arguments on the internet with ease. I assure you, I'm fuckin *serene* right now buddy, maybe that doesn't come across via text

 

[Dreams]

No, everyone here, Matador, cyrano, whomever, we have discussions. But you are at a whole different level, you are extremely rude, and I do not want to engage any further. That is it.

I applaud their efforts, but i think it's more effective and efficient my way

 

[Dreams]

You don't want a discussion, feels to me like a very disingenuous thing to claim

 

[Dreams]

Thanks for deleting your post though

 

[fallout]

a cool alcoholic beverage on either side of me,

maybe that doesn't come across via text

It does.