Lexicon MPX1 output distortion

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Attached is a photo of the board showing analog curcuits and serial/revision numbers.

The schematics I have were issued in 1996, but you're right, the circuitry is different. I've had a look around on web, but can't find another schematic.

 

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It's strange, but the service manual parts list includes R97, 98, C76, 78 and others that are on the board, but they don't appear in the schematic...
My next move is to replace the components I've removed before tracing the circuit from U10 and U11 to U8. Here's a closeup of U8 and surrounds:
 

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I've replaced the caps and resistors in SOFT_SAT circuit. The issue remains though  :mad:

I'm wondering if it could be something to do with C86? This doesn't appear in the schematic, but it is in the parts list as part #
240-00614 description CAP,ELEC,47uf,16V,RAD

The cap I have there is polarised, and I replaced it today, but there is no +ve marking on the board so I went with my photographs as to the polarity. Is it possible this should be non-polar? I think it's part of the SOFT_SAT circuit, as it connects to both C84 and C87.

Maybe this is the issue? I remember recapping this area a while ago, and maybe I've put in a polarised by mistake? This might explain the truncated waveform issue. It's strange that every polarised cap on the board has +ve marked except this one. Yet the parts list doesn't list it as NON-POL.

Would there be any chance of damaging the circuit if I put in a bi-polar cap at position C86 to test this?
 
Capacitors, even polarised ones, are NOT diodes. They may fail internally shorted, but not one-way only.

That being said, i fixed a noisy DBX digital crossover that was noisy, where all the input & output DC-blocking caps were bloated (either CapXon or Lelon, can't recall exactly - crap anyway).

I don't suppose tracing out that part of the circuit (ie. lifting the schematic) is feasible, is it?
 
morls said:
I'm wondering if it could be something to do with C86? This doesn't appear in the schematic, but it is in the parts list as part #
240-00614 description CAP,ELEC,47uf,16V,RAD

The cap I have there is polarised, and I replaced it today, but there is no +ve marking on the board so I went with my photographs as to the polarity.


Always a chance you can have it in backwards...

SAA7360 data sheet attached......


 

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I've replaced C86 with a bi-polar cap. Fault still present.
Plugged unit in with outputs connected. Fault appeared after 1-2min. tone noted before present.
Performed a software initialise. Fault disappeared while initialise was taking place. Once finished init the unit defaulted to prog 1 MPX blue. The tone was processed. Changing programs changes the sound of tone, so it is being processed by each patch.
 
scott2000 said:
Always a chance you can have it in backwards...
SAA7360 data sheet attached......
Thanks Scott. I think it was backwards - looking at the data sheet the +ve of C86 goes to pin 27 of U8. Have replace U86 according to this. Issue remains.  :mad:
 

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morls said:
Thanks Scott. I think it was backwards - looking at the data sheet the +ve of C86 goes to pin 27 of U8. Have replace U86 according to this. Issue remains.  :mad:

Yuck...That would be the last thing I'd hope for......

The theory of operation on that sat circuit was interesting in that it mentions addressing something about that adc
 

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Thanks Scott. This "foldback" distortion might be what I'm hearing. I'll try replacing the transistors, if I can track them down.
 
morls said:
Thanks Scott. This "foldback" distortion might be what I'm hearing. I'll try replacing the transistors, if I can track them down.
Khron said:
It wouldn't be the first time ceramic caps crapped out, or transistors failed / got noisy.
Khron said:
I don't suppose tracing out that part of the circuit (ie. lifting the schematic) is feasible, is it?

::)
 
Khron said:
I don't suppose tracing out that part of the circuit (ie. lifting the schematic) is feasible, is it?
I don't think there's a need to. Between the MPX schematics and the SAA7360 Application Diagram I have the info I need.
 

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