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Samuel Groner

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Hi

I'm looking for the following paper:

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There's a single library in Switzerland which has the magazine available, and exactely this issue is lost. :evil:

Any kind soul out here who has access to this article and could provide a scan? That would be pretty cool..!

Samuel
 
Hmmm I hadn't even heard about that journal.

Sounds from the description an awful lot like the claims by ADI for the AD797 architecture, although it is clearly later work.

I don't have easy access to an engineering library these days myself. I suppose you might try getting a preprint from LT, particularly if the author still works there.
 
[quote author="JohnRoberts"]Heres some copy from their website.. looks like a nice fast OA
JR[/quote]

That last ref has got to be about all of what the guy says in the Electronic Engineering journal paper, perhaps with a few less equations.

I wonder (a) ADI got the patent claims they asked for with the 797, and (b) if so, they sued LT.
 
They may have both borrowed it from some other ancient(s). Not in total but a piece here and a piece there.

JR

EDIT: I've speculated about this before but I'm waiting for a searchable schematic database that can be searched for a given schematic combination of elements.

I could put in my 3 transistor differential and see how many times it was done by others. /EDIT
 
I've been real happy with the 1468 in some high end audio apps.

Very neutral, without the high end fatigue some of the super fast ones seem to have.

I haven't had time to compare against the new National super-whizz-bangs though.
 
I was looking at the datasheet for the 1468, and it looks like there's something funky going on around 10MHz. Is this something to be concerned about?
 
Thanks for the discussion so far.

I suppose you might try getting a preprint from LT, particularly if the author still works there.
I contacted the publisher; if that doesn't work out I'll try to contact LT but the website doesn't offer an obvious way for such requests.

Heres some copy from their website.
That last ref has got to be about all of what the guy says in the Electronic Engineering journal paper.
Seen those--was hoping to get a more detailed schematic in the article, but it's probably the wrong journal for that. LT seems not to be particulary keen on publishing IEEE papers, what a pity.

I think this is just pretty much an AD797 upside down, isn't it?
It is, there are some differences though. The current mirror is more elaborate in the AD797 (if we assume that the available LT1468 schematic is not that much simplified), the output stage is different in the details and there's no distortion cancellation capacitor.

I wonder (a) ADI got the patent claims they asked for with the 797, and (b) if so, they sued LT.
Bootstrapping a current-mirror was done earlier, e.g. for the LM108.pdf. Not the same overall topology, but nonetheless relatively close. The distortion cancellation capacitor which is covered in the patent as well must be new though, never seen that anywhere else.

I've been real happy with the LT1468 in some high end audio apps.
Indeed one of the best audio opamps out there nowadays. Just a pitty that they run the input stage at that low current, makes the OSI somewhat highish for typical audio apps. And there is steeply (faster than usual) rising common-mode distortion above 10 kHz; probably a result of the not bootstrapped current bias cancellation circuitry.

I haven't had time to compare against the new National super-whizz-bangs though.
According to my measurements it is pretty similar in performance to the LME49860. The AD797 still beats these two though.

It looks like there's something funky going on around 10 MHz. Is this something to be concerned about?
No. They roll-off gain in the MHz region in order to get more GBW up to 1 MHz or so, resulting in some phase "wobbling". Almost every higher-speed opamp does this (even the NE5534 did that years back and still does), and it improves performance significantly. For certain gain configuration there will be some increased peaking and overshoot, but this is easily handled by the addition of a feedback capacitor (which is anyway good design practice for audio).

Samuel
 
[quote author="Samuel Groner"]I contacted the publisher; if that doesn't work out I'll try to contact LT but the website doesn't offer an obvious way for such requests.
Samuel[/quote]
I recall that there was a phone number there somewhere, although it may be long obsolete.

EDIT: 408-432-1900
 
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