wolcott said:I like the RCA 408a gold pin and quiet Jan Phillips 6028 .
The Pillip/Jan tubes are clear at the top where the rca is a bit thicker .
The GE tubes Ive tried were similar to the rca .
every WE tube Ive tried is too noisy .
Timh said:Hey dudes, I mounted my capsule and tested out my mk47 tonight and there were some issues. I stuck it in front of my acoustic and it was pretty noisy. Like constantly fuzzy. There's signal coming through and it sounded good, but if I hit my acoustic slightly hard it would distort in a funny way and the bass would wash everything out and sound kind of feedbacky. Anyone have an idea of what might be going on? I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!
Pip said:What is the capsule you are using? The symptoms you are describing could be the capsule or the capsule connections and or something with the tubes. Does this situation vary with pattern selected? Have you tried other tubes? Make sure your High Impedance section is clean of flux. Have you tried breathing on the capsule like you would fog your glasses to clean them, I know this sounds funny but it is a really good test to see if your capsule is compromised.
burglar said:Hi Folks,
I fired up my MK47 for the first time the other night with a chinese k67 just to be safe. I sounded great, i left the tubes to burn in for 24 hours or so and the mic was performing brilliantly, quiet, larger than life with HUGE low end, Loved it.
Having installed my BeesNeez M7 the mic is much noise floor is much higher. Should I expect less output from an M7?
burglar said:Re soldered the capsule connections and cleaned the hi z section and the mic is super quiet now. Very pleased. There is however, less low end than i was expecting in this mic. It sounds great but I'm wondering if I can get it slightly thicker by swapping the Jan Philips tubes?
Will I get this from GE's? Which WE 408a's should I look at for good noise performance as I've read that some are better than others?
They all sound different and the Phillips are reportedly some of the brighter/thinner sounding options. As far as noise goes, 408a/6028 in general are just not great in terms of noise and one must make an effort in order to find pieces that are quiet enough for a mic. I haven't gathered that there is any specific type of WE that is better than others though I've had a number of people tell me that they've had better luck with WE in general than with other brands. Others have not. I've had WE batches where people reported nearly every tube being usable, with others it was as low as 50%. They production date/style had nothing to do with the success rate. It's going to vary from tube to tube and there's no easy route here, unfortunately.burglar said:burglar said:Hi Folks,
I fired up my MK47 for the first time the other night with a chinese k67 just to be safe. I sounded great, i left the tubes to burn in for 24 hours or so and the mic was performing brilliantly, quiet, larger than life with HUGE low end, Loved it.
Having installed my BeesNeez M7 the mic is much noise floor is much higher. Should I expect less output from an M7?
Re soldered the capsule connections and cleaned the hi z section and the mic is super quiet now. Very pleased. There is however, less low end than i was expecting in this mic. It sounds great but I'm wondering if I can get it slightly thicker by swapping the Jan Philips tubes?
Will I get this from GE's? Which WE 408a's should I look at for good noise performance as I've read that some are better than others?
Pip said:Check out this post.
http://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=47112.msg764111#msg764111
Hi, I have never had the Phillips and I try to avoid carrying 6028/408a's in general but I'll occasionally pick up a batch of the WE because they have garnered the most positive feedback. It makes sense as WE was highly respected as a tube builder. Everyone will have different experiences. I've spoken with a few dozen MK47 builders and the most common email I get is requesting an alternative to the Phillips 6028 because nearly every one they tried was noisy/microphonic. As your experience testifies though, everyone will have a different experience. A friend of mine made a strong effort to find a specific brand that was better than the others but his conclusion ended up being that they are all noisy, with some being more tolerable than others. I haven't screened thousands of these like I have with 12A_7s and 6072s so I am only able to pass along info from people who have shared their 408a/6028 experiences with me. These threads will help but just remember that people are having vastly different experiences with these tubes so there is no one solution. Just keep trying and you should land some good ones that satisfy both tone and noise requirements. Fortunately, they're not expensive tubes.burglar said:Thanks for your input there Bowie. I have x10 Jan Philips and the first pair are performing incredibly well with regard to noise. I can barely find the noise floor. Whilst the top end is very smooth and flattering, I do feel there could be a little more low end but i've only recorded my spoken word. Do you have any 408a other than philips currently?
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