Heres an interesting clip from youtube , looks like it could be a handy way to visualise whats going on on what ever kind of plate you use
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w
looks like a fair amount of power is required to get things going .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w
looks like a fair amount of power is required to get things going .