caseyjames
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Is it sacrilege to plunk this after a Gyraf G24 and G23? Is there anything in here the might be upgraded from the stock parts to improve the performance?
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Is it sacrilege to plunk this after a Gyraf G24 and G23? Is there anything in here the might be upgraded from the stock parts to improve the performance?
living sounds
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Is there anything wrong with it? What is it?
Thumbs up for the Gyraf G24 and G23 - those two live permanently on my mix bus insert.
Thumbs up for the Gyraf G24 and G23 - those two live permanently on my mix bus insert.
caseyjames
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Got the G23 and am now obsessed to the point of complete financial ruin.
G21 is the new fixation.
SPL may be the weak link in a minimal chain?
This is not my area, just following leads, trying to maintain depth.
Between my ears, the room, and the seductive quality of the Big knob,
don't trust myself to notice it mulching the audio in some unobvious way.
Pristine stereo image and bigifiying are at odds?
$500 to do what it does seems like a steal.
$1000 to ensure we also get the squirrel fart across the street may be money well spent?
G21 is the new fixation.
SPL may be the weak link in a minimal chain?
This is not my area, just following leads, trying to maintain depth.
Between my ears, the room, and the seductive quality of the Big knob,
don't trust myself to notice it mulching the audio in some unobvious way.
Pristine stereo image and bigifiying are at odds?
$500 to do what it does seems like a steal.
$1000 to ensure we also get the squirrel fart across the street may be money well spent?
caseyjames
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These are orchestral (blumlein) recordings, fyi.
living sounds
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Ah, didn't know that one. Does it sound good? Does it measure OK? Since it's a solid state device build on decent op amps and given SPL's track record it probably won't generate as much distortion as the tube/trafo Gyraf devices.
If it sounds good, I wouldn't change anything.
What I would worry about, judgeing from review audio online, is phase inversion - mono compability. It seems that you can easily overdo it with this unit.
If it sounds good, I wouldn't change anything.
What I would worry about, judgeing from review audio online, is phase inversion - mono compability. It seems that you can easily overdo it with this unit.
caseyjames
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At low settings the "pop" is nice.
Packaging it with the AirBass feels hyped.
I'm unable to tell from the demos what the substance is.
Gets thin, sharp then disperse fairly quickly past "3"
The SPL could impart a modern width on a tape print.
Can't find many similar devices. Possibly a return.
Saw the bevy of TL07x chips and thought... what if?
The alternative I have in mind is:
G24 -> WesAudio Prometheus -> G23
Leaning into the m/s of the G24 and Prometheus.
Actually getting good with it and stuff.
Packaging it with the AirBass feels hyped.
I'm unable to tell from the demos what the substance is.
Gets thin, sharp then disperse fairly quickly past "3"
The SPL could impart a modern width on a tape print.
Can't find many similar devices. Possibly a return.
Saw the bevy of TL07x chips and thought... what if?
The alternative I have in mind is:
G24 -> WesAudio Prometheus -> G23
Leaning into the m/s of the G24 and Prometheus.
Actually getting good with it and stuff.
living sounds
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I wouldn't know. I add all the (mono compatible) spaciousness I need at the mixing stage.
pucho812
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Opamp or no opamp doesn’t matter.
What matters is a how it sounds and if it does the job.
So if you like it’s sonic and are happy with how it works you are good to go
What matters is a how it sounds and if it does the job.
So if you like it’s sonic and are happy with how it works you are good to go
caseyjames
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All ears when it arrives, testing it every which way.
I'm recording orchestra live, constrained, AEA r88 stereo ribbon to tape; trying for a single mic pair aesthetic.
Stereo processors often have a cursed "wow" factor, whose sonic footprint eventually feels gaudy?
Mono compatibility is apparently not a problem with this unit - especially at decent sounding settings.
I saw a YouTube comment likening the behavior to the Waves S1 but it's not clear what it really does.
If i do keep it at the end of the mastering chain, and something like swapping the op-amps is possible,
the peace of mind makes it worth exploring.
I'm recording orchestra live, constrained, AEA r88 stereo ribbon to tape; trying for a single mic pair aesthetic.
Stereo processors often have a cursed "wow" factor, whose sonic footprint eventually feels gaudy?
Mono compatibility is apparently not a problem with this unit - especially at decent sounding settings.
I saw a YouTube comment likening the behavior to the Waves S1 but it's not clear what it really does.
If i do keep it at the end of the mastering chain, and something like swapping the op-amps is possible,
the peace of mind makes it worth exploring.
k brown
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..."constrained" - what mean ye?
caseyjames
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No overdubs, spot mics, or panning... Capturing the room from one position.
Of course there are alternatives to that approach, but that is what I'm up to.
A stereo processor retaining an analog signal path mic to tape that can heighten existing dimensionality could be appealing.
There is the Neve MBT and the SSL Fusion as well. No sense as to how they all compare.
Mastering MS on the Gyraf G24 and the Prometheus seems to be the other likely route.
Of course there are alternatives to that approach, but that is what I'm up to.
A stereo processor retaining an analog signal path mic to tape that can heighten existing dimensionality could be appealing.
There is the Neve MBT and the SSL Fusion as well. No sense as to how they all compare.
Mastering MS on the Gyraf G24 and the Prometheus seems to be the other likely route.
k brown
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I've never heard the word used that way.
living sounds
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You can listen to HQ examples here:
https://www.bonedo.de/artikel/spl-big-test/
Listen to the Juno-6 example. For the processed file the phase meter shows an overwhelmingly negative correlation. So mono compability is a BiG problem here...
There's also a comparison to the SSL Fusion in that article.
https://www.bonedo.de/artikel/spl-big-test/
Listen to the Juno-6 example. For the processed file the phase meter shows an overwhelmingly negative correlation. So mono compability is a BiG problem here...
There's also a comparison to the SSL Fusion in that article.
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