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after deploying ~45M vaccines across Australia the country has, in spite, experienced 79.603% of their ~1.6M cases (in aggregate all of whole pandemic) in the last ...(checks notes) ...28 days

This seems normal to everyone?

(quick, someone math me the area of the white since the green was introduced for those not keeping up)

if we note a small peak then larger peak in the far left of the white, and extrapolate that out we have peaked and seem to be going into that second peak, note the dates (seasonality?) it seems worse, much worse, with mass vaccines or am I looking at this wrong?

interactive map link: COVID-19 Map - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
 

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Yet another vaccine : Corbevax (from Texas?) which is intended to not be patented, meaning anyone/any country would be free to produce it. If true that could be quite something. Efficacy against Omicron remains to be seen though. Undergoing clinical right now, IIUC.
 
Nigeria with 200M People has less dead than Rhode Island (are their vaccines superior? 🤔)

China with 1.4B people has less than 5k people dead with NONE of our western mRNA tech... how'd that work guys?

It's fun what happens to numbers when you incentivize the finding of said numbers...

In America with our mRNA tech we have records dead (fiat data?) records vaccinated yet record number of cases at all time highs since beginning of the pandemic? Is this trending in the direction we had hoped it would when we were promised:

"Vaccines are our way out of this pandemic " -Dr two shots (oops)
 
I would trust that number as much as I trust our government.
Lots have mention they don't believe China, I can appreciate this. So let's play a game of "who do you trust"

Can we quickly address Nigeria? Are they lying? I got lots more 😊

So one proposition is that China is lying and America is not (my assessment of others' theories)

any one else have any ideas why China has less than 5000 dead through the whole of the pandemic to date with NONE of our western mRNA vaccines?
 
So let's play a game of "who do you trust"
Throughout this whole ordeal, I trusted my own observations. Hasn't led me astray.
So one proposition is that China is lying and America is not (my assessment of others' theories)
Both can't be trusted for a multitude of different reasons. One thing that's for certain, in the US it's about compliance, control and money. The fear campaign was unfortunately highly effective.

My nephew recently came down with Covid and asked his mom if he was going to die. Yea, that's healthy for children's mental health. :rolleyes: Nevermind all the distance learning bullshit.

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Taiwan with a population of ~23M has < 1k dead
NY population of ~11M has > 61k dead


is Taiwan lying and what about NY, do these numbers sit well with the Bayesians?

Nigeria has over 200M people and has less dead than Rhode Island (I didn't discover these anomalies but do find them interesting, anyone else?)
 
It is human nature for us to believe we understand more than we do...

We have the mixed blessing of massive knowledge at our fingertips thanks to the WWW, and widely available data (some good, some not so good) with an army of people trying to influence what we think.

Sometimes the answer isn't just out there, and easy answers rarely are correct. Critical thinking is a useful adult skill,,, question everything and everybody, including me. I notice many don't have any problem doing that. ;)

JR
 

Or this one mentioning approval in India and equity gap :

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/sci...id-vaccine-looks-bridge-equity-gaps-rcna10911
Article also mentions that Omicron is indeed a game changer.

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Or The Guardian, which on top mentions pending case against Moderna, which might end up with M. having to pay (or not) a $1bn fine for suspected partial patent infringement. But should that happen, might call it the government recouping some of the investment / cost (ultimately taxpayer money).

-- (No, and it's not the government wanting to put an end to in particular young people making and having made some good money by buying into Moderna stocks from early on.)--
 
Or The Guardian, which on top mentions pending case against Moderna, which might end up with M. having to pay (or not) a $1bn fine for suspected partial patent infringement. But should that happen, might call it the government recouping some of the investment / cost (ultimately taxpayer money).
new drug development takes investment money, if government wants to help, reduce the friction.
-- (No, and it's not the government wanting to put an end to in particular young people making and having made some good money by buying into Moderna stocks from early on.)--
I looked at Moderna, and it was too expensive way back when... I bought some Pfizer and sold it at a fair profit a little while back. The stock market prices stocks based on conditions 6 months to a year from now, so the Covid trade is old news.

JR
 
Taiwan with a population of ~23M has < 1k dead
NY population of ~11M has > 61k dead


is Taiwan lying and what about NY, do these numbers sit well with the Bayesians?

Nigeria has over 200M people and has less dead than Rhode Island (I didn't discover these anomalies but do find them interesting, anyone else?)

Simple.

Taiwan's population follows rules. US population doesn't. Besides, obesity is a US problem and obesity still is one of the indicators of being vulnerable.

Nigeria's cases will be under reported, as a large part of the population isn't tested. No access to hospitals. No health care system like the west has.
 
Simple.

Taiwan's population follows rules. US population doesn't. Besides, obesity is a US problem and obesity still is one of the indicators of being vulnerable.

Nigeria's cases will be under reported, as a large part of the population isn't tested. No access to hospitals. No health care system like the west has.
Yea it probably has nothing to do with the financial incentive baked into the US policy. I bet it's as simple as your guess.
 
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