Mic Loading Confusion

[quote author="Dan Kennedy"]I don't feel so bad now, seeing you guys hash this out. [/quote]

:grin:

Well we're hashing but I don't know anyone that's testing yet...

I would try if I had some ribbon mic... May be to try to build one from computer winchester magnets and kitchen foil to experiment? :green:

> kitchen foil to experiment?

Awful thick, heavier than air.

Peel the foil from cigarette packs.

There's a knack to peeling. Some brands are easier than others. If you just can't, try soaking the paper off.

Note that there are some stunningly low-price ribbons now. As you say, modern magnets make it easier. Bending iron and winding transformers is low-wage stuff.

[quote author="PRR"]> kitchen foil to experiment?

Awful thick, heavier than air.

Peel the foil from cigarette packs.

There's a knack to peeling. Some brands are easier than others. If you just can't, try soaking the paper off.

Note that there are some stunningly low-price ribbons now. As you say, modern magnets make it easier. Bending iron and winding transformers is low-wage stuff.[/quote]

Thanks!

Do you mean something like this one?



Or this one?

[quote author="Wavebourn"]

Do you mean something like this one?

http://proaudio.nekomedia.com/ads/images/apex2051.jpg

Or this one?

http://proaudio.nekomedia.com/ads/images/apex2151.jpg[/quote]
Hey, hadn't seen that second one yet.
As PRR said, these days there's no excuse anymore not to get at least one of those cheap Chinese ribbons to enjoy/toy-around-with/get-sad-from.
Thomann.de has three models under their own brand and there are various other 'brands' selling the same or related mics.

clintrubber said:

[quote author="Wavebourn"]
Hey, hadn't seen that second one yet.

Click to expand...

That one has a double ribbon arrangement; the two ribbons are side by side. I've seen it used in another inexpensive ribbon mic with a single ribbon transformer so the output impedance was pretty high (just below 1k). Can be nice in front of a guitar amp, but the other China ribbons are more universally useful.

[quote author="Rossi"]That one has a double ribbon arrangement; the two ribbons are side by side. I've seen it used in another inexpensive ribbon mic with a single ribbon transformer so the output impedance was pretty high (just below 1k). Can be nice in front of a guitar amp, but the other China ribbons are more universally useful.[/quote]
Thanks Rossi for the info :thumb: Hadn't seen Apex-'incarnations' before.

Cheers,

Peter

[quote author="Rossi"]
That one has a double ribbon arrangement; the two ribbons are side by side. I've seen it used in another inexpensive ribbon mic with a single ribbon transformer so the output impedance was pretty high (just below 1k). Can be nice in front of a guitar amp, but the other China ribbons are more universally useful.[/quote]

May be good also as a center mic for stereo recording in nice reverberating environments.