john12ax7

DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« on: July 28, 2016, 11:31:55 PM »
Looking for a readout  for min:sec and bars: beats like you might find on Hui controller. Trying to get away from looking at the computer screen so want a dedicated display. Machine controls play, rewind, record, etc wounds be useful too.

Anything like this exist in DIY?


Michael Tibes

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2016, 06:05:44 AM »
Isn't the HUI protocol openly documented? Then it shouldn't be too difficult to build something like that with arduino, there might be projects in the midi communities.

Michael

pvision

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2016, 10:43:49 AM »
Back in the mists of time I used Sequencer Plus by Voyetra, running on a Compaq Portable

I asked them for a bar number display that could be seen across the room and, in their next release, they provided a hotkey that would display a full-screen bar / beat readout. I found it brilliant for keeping tabs on keyboard parts we could work on

Simple idea & very useful. Maybe something like a Faderport with a bar readout?

Nick Froome

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2016, 01:51:33 PM »
Hi

I think midibox is the way to go.
There is already a led matrix + code (MIOS32/MB_NG) for MTC display via HUI/MCU

look at about 2/3 of this page for DOUT_MATRIX
http://ucapps.de/midibox_ng_manual_ngc.html

Transport control is also possible.

Best
Zam

john12ax7

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2016, 03:19:25 PM »
Thanks I will check out the links.

Rocinante

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2016, 11:03:47 AM »
Did you get anywhere?
This seems very difficult but awesome as it would be great to apply it to several applications; track name, track vu, transport, etc... I've seen controllers at ucapps and online that have it so its definitely possible.
Im wondering if teensy or arduino might work as well? I am picking one of them up very soon here for similar applications.
If there's a harder way to do this, I haven't found it yet.

Andy Peters

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2016, 12:39:06 PM »
Did you get anywhere?
This seems very difficult but awesome as it would be great to apply it to several applications; track name, track vu, transport, etc... I've seen controllers at ucapps and online that have it so its definitely possible.
Im wondering if teensy or arduino might work as well? I am picking one of them up very soon here for similar applications.

There is at least one MIDI firmware library for Arduino. If your DAW speaks HUI, and you understand that protocol, implementing the display shouldn't be all that difficult. it's just a small matter of firmware ...
"On the Internet, nobody can hear you mix a band"

john12ax7

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2016, 03:03:33 PM »
I'm artist units over eucon, sometimes Hui will work in parallel, sometimes not.

So I'm considering another approach, a tiny secondary monitor for display and then programmable keypad for transport. I found these which look interesting

http://www.fentek-ind.com/xks16.htm#xks16

Rocinante

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2016, 04:10:41 PM »
I'm using artists over eucon too so please let me know.
Regarding HUI; from what ive gathered the code is long and complicated. People have hacked it though (one dude says he did 80%) and shared their hard work.  Youd think transport, time, beats, and metering would be easier than other tasks e.g. automation, recall, etc... but I know very little. I'm picking up a teensy since it seems like a few of the hui projects people have done used it.
Ill pick one up play around and start a thread.
If there's a harder way to do this, I haven't found it yet.

Rocinante

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2016, 02:46:00 PM »
Check it. This guys doing DAW track names and metering with oled's and a teensy.

https://youtu.be/PbD51pbwjn8
If there's a harder way to do this, I haven't found it yet.


Humner

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2016, 09:29:13 PM »
this looks cool.

I've never looked into HUI and midi in depth, but knowing how buggy it can be would like to avoid it and rather tackle it in a more "manual" way. I'm thinking of ways to integrate something like this in my analogue mixer project. Maybe create a simple excel spreadsheet to fill out track names and then export the file which is readable by code to create the track name display.

I'm looking at it as an alternative to the old masking tape strip with track names etc...

Rocinante

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2016, 11:20:13 PM »
this looks cool.

I've never looked into HUI and midi in depth, but knowing how buggy it can be would like to avoid it and rather tackle it in a more "manual" way. I'm thinking ways to integrate something like this in my analogue mixer project. Maybe create a simple excel spreadsheet to fill out track names and then export the file which is readable by code to create the track name display.

I'm looking at it as an alternative to the old masking tape strip with track names etc...

Brother we are on the same page. I imagine db metering via tft or oled could be pretty awesome.  I am designing a 1u or 2u 'meter bridge' that will attach to the summing line mixer im building via Ian Bell db25 pcbs and usb to the pc.
If there's a harder way to do this, I haven't found it yet.

Humner

Re: DAW display for min:sec and bars: beats
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2016, 02:43:35 AM »
Some further ideas to look into

LCD Smartie controls, 16x2 20x4 character LCD's - http://lcdsmartie.sourceforge.net/

Then I found this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I9Pr39qaso and - http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthread.php?t=18512

Anyway, I'm trying to track down this plugin for LCD Smartie

http://nicholas-johnson.com/stuff/Midi2LCD.zip

Looks like this is the key for some further experimenting.