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crazydoc said:
"COVID-19 is listed as the underlying cause on the death certificate in 94% of deaths."

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm

I've heard from the hospitals have reimburse from government based on Covid 19 moneys appropriated by congress when the pandemic started.  In other words they are rewarded for reporting Covid.  You being a doctor probably have a much better take on what the hospitals are doing and why they report and bill the government for emergency funds.  Just trying to clear things up.  Its crazy all the various opinions you get on this and the use of it for lock downs. 

The one thing I get from Bret Weinstein's show "Dark Horse" is the fact that Covid has troubles transferring from person to person in open air.  Locking people down inside is one of the worst things to have happen.  The old folks homes that had a lockdown trapped the virus inside to build in quainty where it spreads more easily.  This also points to the possibility of it being studied at a lab indoors and being more contagious inside due to the build up and spread of the virus's adaptation. 
 
fazer said:
I've heard from the hospitals have reimburse from government based on Covid 19 moneys appropriated by congress when the pandemic started.  In other words they are rewarded for reporting Covid.  You being a doctor probably have a much better take on what the hospitals are doing and why they report and bill the government for emergency funds.  Just trying to clear things up.  Its crazy all the various opinions you get on this and the use of it for lock downs.
The patient's attending physician fills out and signs the death certificate.  Unless the doctors are getting some kind of kickback from the hospital (which I can't believe on a large scale), I'd imagine the data taken from the certificates reflects the actual cause of death.

The one thing I get from Bret Weinstein's show "Dark Horse" is the fact that Covid has troubles transferring from person to person in open air.  Locking people down inside is one of the worst things to have happen.  The old folks homes that had a lockdown trapped the virus inside to build in quainty where it spreads more easily.  This also points to the possibility of it being studied at a lab indoors and being more contagious inside due to the build up and spread of the virus's adaptation.
Assisted care and nursing homes are hotbeds of the virus, probably mostly for that reason. I'd hope that labs have appropriately ventilated  isolation rooms and PPE to do their research to keep it from spreading.
 
11 March 2019
WHO launches new global influenza strategy
"The new strategy is the most comprehensive and far-reaching that WHO has ever developed for influenza"

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/11-03-2019-who-launches-new-global-influenza-strategy

Read the Global Influenza Strategy
http://www.who.int/iris/handle/10665/311184

"Action 3A: Integrate nonpharmaceutical
interventions into prevention and control
programmes
Supporting components:
i. Communicate the benefits of integrating NPIs into seasonal
programmes and pandemic influenza plans to policy-makers
across sectors.
ii. Provide educational materials on NPIs to the public, including
settings and groups at highest risk for influenza.
iii. Engage with local health authorities and communities to plan
for deployment of community-level NPIs – for example, school
closures and social distancing measures for schools, workplaces
and mass gatherings – during seasonal epidemics and pandemics"


Sep 30, 2019
"South Florida doctors, hospitals and clinics say now is the time to get ready for the 2019-20 flu season, which could be one of the worst.

"In Australia, which experiences winter before the United States and tends to be a predictor, the country just had the worst flu season in its history. The confirmed 272,146 cases are more than four times as many as the year before

The CDC is still totaling the fatalities from the 2018-19 flu season, which was one of the longest on record after a new strain emerged in April"

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-ne-bad-flu-season-20190927-7kuenz7ztfgqzeocqzubd3q7sq-story.html

December 26, 2019
Health Department: Confirmed Flu Cases In NYC Up 77%
The number of new confirmed flu cases in New York just for the week ending Dec. 14 was 3,264, which is a 77% increase. Of those 3,264 cases, 2,028 were in New York City, 319 were on Long Island and 119 were in Westchester"

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/12/26/flu-nyc-department-of-health-flu-symptoms-flu-shot/

January 6, 2020
"US on track for one of the worst flu seasons in decades"
Fauci pointed out a CDC graph to compare the current flu season to two of the most severe in recent decades.
"We don't want it to keep going up and up and up like in 2017-2018," he said. "Hopefully it won't, but if it continues to go straight up, this could really be a bad year.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/03/health/flu-week-52/index.html


Jan 08, 2020
Health officials had warned the 2019-2020 flu season could be one of the worst in history

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-ne-flu-season-florida-20200108-smylr2hx5zhc7fnewajgajidfa-story.html

2016 Jul; 13
Aberrant coagulation causes a hyper-inflammatory response in severe influenza pneumonia

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4947825/

October 15, 2009

H1N1 flu causes unusual damage to lungs: studies
Mollura’s team found irregularities called ground-glass opacities in the patient’s lungs using a CT scan

In another study in the same journal, CT scans of patients with severe cases of swine flu showed many had pulmonary emboli, which block the arteries in the lungs, a team at the University of Michigan found.

Anticoagulant drugs can break up these clots and save lives.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-flu-clots/h1n1-flu-causes-unusual-damage-to-lungs-studies-idUSTRE59E5D220091015

2007 Oct 16

Influenza infection and risk of acute pulmonary embolism
"We hypothesized that influenza infections lead to a pro-coagulant state of the blood, resulting in a higher risk of pulmonary embolism"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2104525/






 
iturnknobs said:
Your positivity is entertaining. People are choosing not to learn. We will not be smarter next time and this is proof as 250,000 gather at Sturgis.

A scientific study has been released:

https://www.iza.org/publications/dp/13670

" We conclude that the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally generated public health costs of approximately $12.2 billion."
 
I've posted earlier about this....

3 months with the ability to test positive (although non-replicating) seems like it should be factored into some equations/opinions once in a while. As well as if in fact a single person can be counted multiple times as long as it's on a different day

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/duration-isolation.html

"Although replication-competent virus was not isolated 3 weeks after symptom onset, recovered patients can continue to have SARS-CoV-2 RNA detected in their upper respiratory specimens for up to 12 weeks"

"These findings strengthen the justification for relying on a symptom based, rather than test-based strategy for ending isolation of these patients"


Also, here's one study regarding older population growth I've touched on in the past.....  I'm sure these vaccines they're working on will do their best to protect the older populations.... but other measures will need to continue with more gusto and participation than probably has been practiced in the past... Wonder what the average life expectancy is here in the US??? I think like 79 years...Not sure though.....interesting where the attached chart intersects... wonder if they were close with their projections..

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/worlds-older-population-grows-dramatically

"When the global population
reached 7 billion in 2012,
562 million (or 8.0 percent) were
aged 65 and over. In 2015, 3 years
later, the older population rose by
55 million and the proportion of the
older population reached 8.5 percent
of the total population"

 

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Interesting read. Seems possible that older people don't show ILI symptoms the same as younger people.

https://betterhealthwhileaging.net/avoiding-missed-flu-symptoms-diagnosis-in-aging/

And it looks like testing for flu is based on symptoms to some degree. Further complicating things, older people with pre-existing conditions are often not tested for flu just because...  Wonder what it would look like if this hadn't been the case.. Something tells me there will be more testing in the future regardless of symptoms or comorbidity?

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jgs.15298


"In our analysis of independent factors associated with influenza testing, age was negatively correlated with provider‐ordered testing. In participants who had study‐confirmed influenza according to RT‐PCR, only ILI was correlated with provider‐ordered testing. The known lack of ILI symptoms in older adults may lead to missed influenza diagnoses and missed opportunities for treatment"

"Individuals with cardiac or pulmonary disease were also less likely to have provider‐ordered influenza testing"

"A major concern regarding lower rates of influenza testing in older adults is that clinicians are underdiagnosing influenza in a population with substantial morbidity and mortality that could be mitigated uisng early antiviral treatment"
 
The Food and Drug Administration is weighing whether to follow British regulators in resuming a coronavirus vaccine trial that was halted when a participant suffered spinal cord damage, even as the National Institutes of Health has launched an investigation of the case.

"The highest levels of NIH are very concerned," said Dr. Avindra Nath, intramural clinical director and a leader of viral research at the National Institute for Neurological Disorders and Stroke, an NIH division. "Everyone's hopes are on a vaccine, and if you have a major complication the whole thing could get derailed."

...

AstraZeneca "need(s) to be more forthcoming with a potential complication of a vaccine which will eventually be given to millions of people," said Nath. "We would like to see how we can help, but the lack of information makes it difficult to do so."


https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/937412?src=mkm_covid_update_200915_mscpedit_&uac=37266AR&impID=2566447&faf=1#vp_1
 
Looks like they better be careful......

Lawyers are at the ready.....

https://ccandh.com/vaccine-injuries/transverse-myelitis-tm/
"While the exact cause of Transverse Myelitis is unknown, it has been reported to occur after infections and vaccinations.  It has also been reported to occur in the setting of other autoimmune disorders"

Transverse Myelitis Vaccine Lawyer
https://vaccinelaw.com/lawyer/Transverse-Myelitis-Vaccine-Lawyer_cp11022.htm


"Vaccines provide many benefits for most people and the greater population in the United States. However, in rare cases, they can cause serious and permanent injuries like Transverse Myelitis"
https://shannonlawgroup.com/vaccinations-can-cause-symptoms-of-transverse-myelitis/






Longitudinally Extensive Transverse Myelitis Following Vaccination With Nasal Attenuated Novel Influenza A(H1N1) Vaccine
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/800879

Development of Transverse Myelitis after Vaccination, A CDC/FDA Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) Study, 1985–2017
https://n.neurology.org/content/90/15_Supplement/P5.099


Maybe some promising news.... Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

"The 2012 report by the Institute of Medicine (IOM), now called the National Academy of Medicine (NAM), found no relevant studies of quality in the literature assessing an association between transverse myelitis and MMR, varicella, influenza, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, HPV, meningococcal conjugate, diphtheria, tetanus or pertussis vaccines, since the only applicable studies available either had serious methodological limitations or used passive surveillance systems and therefore lacked an unvaccinated comparison group [1]"
https://www.vaccinesafety.edu/vs-tm.htm#*_.


"Vaccinations for infectious diseases have occasionally been associated as a possible trigger. However, at this time the association is not strong enough to warrant limiting any vaccine."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/transverse-myelitis/symptoms-causes/syc-20354726



transverse myelitis activation Post-H1n1 immunization: a case ...
"According to a recent multi-analysis
conducted by our research team, 37 cases
of transverse myelitis developed within one
month post-vaccination that used various
common immunizations [5]. Similar to the
immune reaction of infectious diseases,
vaccine adjuvants cause autoimmunity
in a similar manner, including molecular
mimicry, epitope spreading, up-regulation
of cytokines, and polyclonal activation of B and T lymphocytes"
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwixy7abnu3rAhUNrFkKHaIrC904KBAWMAR6BAgGEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ima.org.il%2FFilesUploadPublic%2FIMAJ%2F0%2F107%2F53806.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3v6LI3YnhZFsyCNGh-xbfe

 
And we continue to learn. Here's an article on the human three-layered immune response system, the importance of T cells, dexamethasone and
"assess[ing] patients based on their adaptive immunity profile".

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/09/uncoordinated-immune-response-may-explain-why-covid-19-strikes-some-hard-particularly

Also a hint at there being more than one (type of) vaccine in the end.
 
My neighbor the druggist is enthusiastic about synthetic antibodies (monoclonal?).

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Here's an unanticipated bad consequence from false positive covid tests. Apparently the test rigs used by a number of nursing homes generated false positives.

After a nursing home resident tests positive for covid, they get moved into a covid positive ward with other covid positive residents. If they weren't actually covid positive before, they are now.  ::)

JR
 
JohnRoberts said:
My neighbor the druggist is enthusiastic about synthetic antibodies (monoclonal?).
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/937501?src=mkm_covid_update_200917_mscpedit_&uac=37266AR&impID=2570797&faf=1
 
Japanese Avigan anti-flu finally passes phase 3 as effective against Covid. Seems it reduces symptoms and viral load, helping patients recover on average after 11.9 days as compared to 14.7 days for a placebo. Not fantastic as numbers, but better than nothing.

And Japan had pledged to donate Avigan to anyone in need -- which sounds much better than China and US not joining  COVAX, a global attempt at fair distribution of vaccines once available and joined by 156 countries so far.
 
An interesting contrary perspective from presumed health professionals... Of course in classic follow the money they too have self interest in re-opening the economy.


JR

[edit I have removed the link due to the low credibility of the website.../edit]
 
JohnRoberts said:
An interesting contrary perspective from presumed health professionals... Of course in classic follow the money they too have self interest in re-opening the economy.

EDIT: removed website link

JR

Wow John, I think that's the first time you linked to an actual conspiracy website.
 
And here's the Care 222 UV lamp, developed by Ushio Inc and Columbia University, for disinfecting busy public spaces or transportation with UV light.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/09/22/national/japan-first-uv-lamp-kills-coronavirus/
 
Script said:
And here's the Care 222 UV lamp, developed by Ushio Inc and Columbia University, for disinfecting busy public spaces or transportation with UV light.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/09/22/national/japan-first-uv-lamp-kills-coronavirus/

So music clubs can now reopen if they use these for blacklight.  8)
 
Script said:
And here's the Care 222 UV lamp, developed by Ushio Inc and Columbia University, for disinfecting busy public spaces or transportation with UV light.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/09/22/national/japan-first-uv-lamp-kills-coronavirus/
I have been following this (far UVc technology) for some time. I believe that 222nM light is generated by an excimer lamp so expensive, contains mercury, and not very long life. I have read about a 210nM LED technology that is still under development (FDA website mentioned a 214nM LED). That should be a bunch cheaper and much longer lasting. Indeed the future looks brighter (safer).

Coincidentally Columbia university (Technology Ventures) recently contacted me about some drum tuner invention, to see if I had any interest (I passed), but asked them about the far UVc work. The PhD in charge of that is a Dr. David Brenner, the last I heard they were doing safety studies with hairless mice exposed to far UVc for long duration.

FDA said:
There is some evidence that excimer lamps, with peak wavelength of 222-nm may cause less damage to the skin, eyes, and DNA than the 254 nm wavelength, but long-term safety data is lacking.

https://news.columbia.edu/ultraviolet-technology-virus-covid-19-UV-light

Far UVc was initially pursued for use in hospitals to manage drug resistant bacteria, and general operating room hygiene. The Covid pandemic has lit a fire under the program for wider public use. 

I remain optimistic about this and other improvements that will make any future reruns of this less deadly. Of course we still need to survive this one. 

JR
 
living sounds said:
Wow John, I think that's the first time you linked to an actual conspiracy website.
I guess there is a first for everything... Thanks for the head's up.

I haven't found a fact check yet discrediting that letter specifically but maybe its too new to be debunked yet. The website does not seem very credible from general fact checking, but they don't call themselves conspiracy nuts...

Please delete the link from your quote... or leave it up if you want to spread it. I deleted it from my post. 

JR
 
JohnRoberts said:
I guess there is a first for everything... Thanks for the head's up.

I haven't found a fact check yet discrediting that letter specifically but maybe its too new to be debunked yet. The website does not seem very credible from general fact checking, but they don't call themselves conspiracy nuts...

Please delete the link from your quote... or leave it up if you want to spread it. I deleted it from my post. 

JR

Thanks! I deleted the link. I know that website, because a friend who has become a conspiracy nut directed me there before. There is a wikipedia article detailing some of the problems with the website.
 
. I believe that 222nM light is generated by an excimer lamp so expensive, contains mercury, and not very long life.
Does not contain mercury, but yes, it is excimer for now.

If they come up with LED soon, cool. Until then, this is better than nothing. Ushio website doesn't give prices, I think.
 
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