So now you are attacking me personally, since I haven't spoken about religion. But your attack on me still doesn't support your argument.I'm sorry, I'm not into religion. It's just that I read your footer too late...
Yeah, you've made quite a few assumptions there. What if the "mitigation" is completely unneccessary or ineffective? You still think it's OK to radically change the world and make others suffer on a collection of guesses?So if the future of the climate is just a guess, and if changes are made to mitigate global warming, that will cause some distress among some segments of the population, but likely no catastrophic and hopefully controllable sequelae. But if no changes are made to control energy trapping, and if increasingly serious events do occur and continue to worsen, it will almost certainly be too late to make any effective changes to control it, at least in the near (decades/centuries long) term.
We all have a vested interest in not destroying our economy and society while countries like China take full advantage of our stupid "mitigation" while doing more of the exact things you think we should stop. Moronic.A stitch in time...
But of course most of us have no vested interest in this, except for our descendants.
I've experienced several "100 year" events. All that shows is how little science actually knows about the historic frequency of such events.BTW John, is that "1000 year" weather event affecting you down there?
that is a bit simplistic view of the climate, energy trapping is just one aspect.So if the future of the climate is just a guess, and if changes are made to mitigate global warming, that will cause some distress among some segments of the population, but likely no catastrophic and hopefully controllable sequelae. But if no changes are made to control energy trapping, and if increasingly serious events do occur and continue to worsen, it will almost certainly be too late to make any effective changes to control it, at least in the near (decades/centuries long) term.
?A stitch in time...
In the short term it is mostly virtue signaling or warm and fuzzy feel-goodism.But of course most of us have no vested interest in this, except for our descendants.
certainly a 20 year event... My next door neighbor had water in his den, and the last time that happened was a couple decades ago. My floor is several inches higher than his and I have dry feet. My sump pump ran almost 24 hours to clear water out of my crawl space.BTW John, is that "1000 year" weather event affecting you down there?
It proved Planck was right...did you not read the post?Ad populum fallacy, I don't know what is the point for that graph, and why the center for climate change publishes that graph, is it supposed to be evidence of something?
Ok, you proved Planck right, but it still doesn't answer my question, which was: what is the purpose of presenting such a graph (not by you, by the climate committee or whatever its called), is it supposed to be support for the evidence of something?It proved Planck was right...did you not read the post?
I recall when he became secretary of defense under president Bush."There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."
Donald Rumsfeld
Is it my imagination or Kamala Harris just recently said something very similar?I recall when he became secretary of defense under president Bush.
JR
You can't make valid policy decisions based on the last two categories."There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."
Donald Rumsfeld
To me that is the crux of the problem. So, educate me.that is a bit simplistic view of the climate, energy trapping is just one aspect.
JR
Exactly.You can't make valid policy decisions based on the last two categories.
Climate is complex and that is only one term in a simultaneous multi-variable equation. Simplistically we have energy input from the sun, minus the heat loss radiated away, heat reflected/blocked by the upper atmosphere. We have historical records showing global temperature drops correlated with massive volcanic eruptions. This is in fact one avenue to consider for active cooling of our planet should we ever need to. Another variable is heat absorption in our oceans. I have speculated how reducing the ocean surface temperatures could reduce severity of tropical storms that accumulate energy from warm ocean waters. This is impractical with todays technology, but climate remedies need to be viewed over a much longer time scale.To me that is the crux of the problem. So, educate me.
I did better than my neighbor, and the state HWY has not cleared out the elephant ears yet. From where I sit this was just another bad rain event. 4-5" of rain in only a few hours causes flash flooding on low ground (like where I live). I don't watch much mainstream news, but besides you, my brother who lives in SOCAL reached out to check on me, so apparently this weather event was widely reported in CA. I could see the storm coming as it dumped a lot of rain in TX a day earlier.Glad you survived this without bad problems.
Yet that is exactly what is happening.Exactly.
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