Deaths from climate change

[cyrano]

That's the way to go. No arguments, only insults. Shoot the messenger, boys, that solves everything.

Sorry, it's maddening when intelligent people simply refuse to use their brain.

 

[JohnRoberts]

That's the way to go. No arguments, only insults. Shoot the messenger, boys, that solves everything.

pot kettle

Sorry, it's maddening when intelligent people simply refuse to use their brain.

but that is the strategy. The puppet masters don't want us to discover our common interests.

JR

 

[cyrano]

You may call me naive, John. I always try to educate people, despite some being to stubborn...

 

[s2udio]

"but that is the strategy. The puppet masters don't want us to discover our common interests."

JR

The Absolute truth in that statement JR, If only more would wake up to that fact.

Just watching some clips from RFK jnr's speach anounncing his election campaign.
Interesting Indeed I must say from over the pond here in UK

 

[JohnRoberts]

The Absolute truth in that statement JR, If only more would wake up to that fact.

if only people didn't get a dopamine rush from being angry.

Just watching some clips from RFK jnr's speach anounncing his election campaign.
Interesting Indeed I must say from over the pond here in UK

RFK jr was anti-vax before it was cool. Modern politics comes down to the insiders vs the outsiders. RFK jr despite coming from a serious democratic family lineage is considered an outsider these days.

JR

 

[Recording Engineer]

RFK jr was anti-vax before it was cool.

I know who my mom will be voting for! She has slowly become fully anti-vax crazy over the last 10-years. The video she shared with me during the pandemic of the RFK jr.’s non-sense made me want to hurl! We can cure cancer too! I wish everything was as simple as all these alternative gurus present them to be.

 

[user 37518]

That's the way to go. No arguments, only insults. Shoot the messenger, boys, that solves everything.

Sorry, it's maddening when intelligent people simply refuse to use their brain.

What arguments do you want to give to someone who thinks we have to do something about the "population problem" and that anarchy is the way to go. There weren't any insults, I sincerely hope you are young and will grow out of it.

 

[cyrano]

I'm sorry, I should've known you are a stubborn believer. And your belief stands in the way of comprehension. Dogma kills reason. As in not wanting to see the difference between anarchism and anarchy.

Maybe I'm weird, but I was born this way. Saint Nicolas (Santa Klaus) and the Easter Bells never worked for me.



Nothin' new under the sun.

 

[user 37518]

I'm sorry, I should've known you are a stubborn believer. And your belief stands in the way of comprehension. Dogma kills reason. As in not wanting to see the difference between anarchism and anarchy.

Maybe I'm weird, but I was born this way. Saint Nicolas (Santa Klaus) and the Easter Bells never worked for me.

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Nothin' new under the sun.

We are both belivers, I just happen to belive and worship a Higher Being, you, on the other hand, believe and worship yourself and The Earth. But we are both believers.

There is a saying in my country, that will probably get lost in translation, yet, I'll do my best "Who doesn't know God, prays to any saint". Meaning that you still have your substitues for a god, be it "The Science", Earth, or Greta Thunberg, but you are not such a "free spirit" as you might think, there is a ton of people who follow your same creed and religion.

 

[fazer]

“We’ll it may be the devil, or it may be the lord but your gonna have to serve somebody “

Bob Dylan

 

[scott2000]

"We forge the chains we wear in life"
Charles Dickens

 

[AnalogPackrat]

"[beware that] “many of what are called social problems are differences between the theories of intellectuals and the realities of the world—differences which many intellectuals interpret to mean that it is the real world that is wrong and needs changing." --Thomas Sowell

 

[cyrano]

It's funny. Christianity, Judaism, Islam and Buddhism have roots in anarchism...

Of course, they lost it when they became mainstream and under centralised power. I can understand the catholic's position. We are, after all, put on earth to suffer for the original sin, committed by Adam and Eve.

We are both belivers, I just happen to belive and worship a Higher Being, you, on the other hand, believe and worship yourself and The Earth. But we are both believers.

I'm an anarchist. If you don't believe in yourself, you're a victim. Obviously, I also believe in the earth as our mother. Or father, to please the transgender crowd

There is a saying in my country, that will probably get lost in translation, yet, I'll do my best "Who doesn't know God, prays to any saint". Meaning that you still have your substitues for a god, be it "The Science", Earth, or Greta Thunberg, but you are not such a "free spirit" as you might think, there is a ton of people who follow your same creed and religion.

I speak Spanish. Have no experience with Mexican Spanish tho.

And of course there's a ton of people joining the movement. The major difference is, we have no "little boys club". We don't believe we are better than anyone else. That's the aim of all clubs, after all. To create the "Us and them" feeling. Who was it that said "Divide and conquer"? Consequently, we have no leaders. That seems to be the hardest thing to grok for all those that belong to a little boys club. Groucho Marx understood that, I think. It also seems to scare some people. After all, without a leader, where are we to go?

 

[AnalogPackrat]

It's funny. Christianity, Judaism, Islam and Buddhism have roots in anarchism...

Defying existing State policy on religion (either mandated or prohibited worship) is not rooted in anarchism. A desire for limits on government authority is not anarchism.

Of course, they lost it when they became mainstream and under centralised power.

Similar things occur with most human organizations if members become apathetic (the cost of liberty is eternal vigilance). Corporations, unions, etc. have all suffered from this very human failing.

I can understand the catholic's position. We are, after all, put on earth to suffer for the original sin, committed by Adam and Eve.

No comment. I'm not Catholic.

I'm an anarchist. If you don't believe in yourself, you're a victim. Obviously, I also believe in the earth as our mother. Or father, to please the transgender crowd

Believing in yourself is one thing. Believing in no external authority at all is quite another. Anarchism is a broken concept, especially in the modern era of large populations and powerful nation-states.

I speak Spanish. Have no experience with Mexican Spanish tho.

A whiff of elitism?

And of course there's a ton of people joining the movement.

Mao, Lenin, and little Adolph were also very popular.

The major difference is, we have no "little boys club".

Really?

We don't believe we are better than anyone else.

LOFL! "How dare you!" Here you are, telling us how wrong we are and how bad our systems of government or countries are, but you "don't believe [you] are better than anyone else?"

That's the aim of all clubs, after all. To create the "Us and them" feeling. Who was it that said "Divide and conquer"? Consequently, we have no leaders.

Leaders always emerge at some point. And even the leaderless mob is divisive. Antifa is a leaderless anarchist organization that has certainly operated on an "us versus them" model.

That seems to be the hardest thing to grok for all those that belong to a little boys club.

Not speaking for anyone else, but I see it and I think plenty of others do, too. We just understand it in the context of history to which "members" of your club seem ignorant.

Groucho Marx understood that, I think. It also seems to scare some people. After all, without a leader, where are we to go?

Elected government need not be seen as "leadership," but held to the standard of "public servant." Apply eternal vigilance or else.

 

[crazydoc]

Consequently, we have no leaders.

 

[Matador]

Here you are, telling us how wrong we are and how bad our systems of government or countries are, but you "don't believe [you] are better than anyone else?"

I hate to break it to you, but that shiny thing on the wall is a mirror.

 

[AnalogPackrat]

I hate to break it to you, but that shiny thing on the wall is a mirror.

I'm not afraid to state that I believe the intended (and until relatively recently, mostly functional) form of government laid out in the US Constitution is the best system humans have devised and successfully employed to date. I'm not the one pretending to be neutral or a fence-sitter in this discussion in case you hadn't noticed. But keep the ad hominem coming.

 

[cyrano]

Thanks. All new to me. Is he supposed to be an anarchist?

When it comes to religion, it's under the same rule: my freedom ends where yours begins. So, personally I don't care what people believe, that's their freedom. If, however these people feel they should harass me to recrute me into their belief, it's not OK. Jehova's witnesses that ring the doorbell, will simply get the statement that I don't buy anything, especially religion. If they're not polite enough to cease harassing me, they'll get the door on the nose. Fortunately, local jehova's are very polite. Haven't seen one in at least fifteen years.

 

[user 37518]

It's funny. Christianity, Judaism, Islam and Buddhism have roots in anarchism...

Of course, they lost it when they became mainstream and under centralised power. I can understand the catholic's position. We are, after all, put on earth to suffer for the original sin, committed by Adam and Eve.



I'm an anarchist. If you don't believe in yourself, you're a victim. Obviously, I also believe in the earth as our mother. Or father, to please the transgender crowd



I speak Spanish. Have no experience with Mexican Spanish tho.

And of course there's a ton of people joining the movement. The major difference is, we have no "little boys club". We don't believe we are better than anyone else. That's the aim of all clubs, after all. To create the "Us and them" feeling. Who was it that said "Divide and conquer"? Consequently, we have no leaders. That seems to be the hardest thing to grok for all those that belong to a little boys club. Groucho Marx understood that, I think. It also seems to scare some people. After all, without a leader, where are we to go?

Your position is interesting, which is that of those who put humanity at the center of things, on the one hand, they feel like moral superiors by preaching that man should be exalted, one must strive for the common good, nothing is more important than humanity and helping the afflicted. That is, of course, until trees get hurt or someone is inconvenienced by the presence of other humans, then, they suddenly start talking about "the population problem" and throw humanity under the bus as if it is worth nothing. Contradiction at its best: "Every person's life is precious"/"Humans are a disease and the world needs saving", "I believe in science"/"What is a woman?", "We are now refined higher beings, much sophisticated and elevated than those brutes from past centuries, we are now free from dogma, because dogmatism kills reason"/"Humans are animals and should act according to any impulse as they please, because monkeys and dogs do it in nature."

Claiming Judaism and Buddhism have roots on anarchism is just ridiculous. But most of what you have said is, so at least you are congruent.

What is Mexican Spanish?

 

[user 37518]

When it comes to religion, it's under the same rule: my freedom ends where yours begins.

That is unless you consider that the mere presence of others threatens what your climate religion preaches, then you start talking about the population problem and having to deal with it.