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abbey road d enfer said:
Yes, that's up to the broadcaster/diffusor. The EBU just makes recommendations in that respect.

but this data will be fine like a start point!, do you?.....

Opacheco
 
opacheco said:
but this data will be fine like a start point!, do you?.....

Opacheco
Well, you know, most of the R128 thing is like speed limits on the motorways; one may respect them because he thinks it's a good thing, another may respect them for fear of getting a ticket, and some may respect them because they are professional drivers and it's part of the contract with their employer/client.
If your mixes end up on the radio or on Youtube, you have to obey the rules, if they're for CD's sold at concerts, you may be more relaxed.
EBU claims it's going to end the loudness war; a number of professionals think it's just going to exacerbate it, with more and more "creative" compression designed to take advantage of a more and more congested pipeline. The risk of ending with mixes that sound like clipped pink noise is getting closer.
BTW, it is possible to deliver a program with a LRA that's higher than the broadcaster's norm; he is then supposed to use  the LRA - that is present in the metadata - to operate whatever compression system is available. Indeed, it looks like many broadcasters do not accept such a practice because they want only RTB programs.
 
abbey road d enfer said:
Well, you know, most of the R128 thing is like speed limits on the motorways; one may respect them because he thinks it's a good thing, another may respect them for fear of getting a ticket, and some may respect them because they are professional drivers and it's part of the contract with their employer/client.
If your mixes end up on the radio or on Youtube, you have to obey the rules, if they're for CD's sold at concerts, you may be more relaxed.
EBU claims it's going to end the loudness war; a number of professionals think it's just going to exacerbate it, with more and more "creative" compression designed to take advantage of a more and more congested pipeline. The risk of ending with mixes that sound like clipped pink noise is getting closer.

yes!!...I am thinking to mix in a more intelligent compression without fall in the clipping territory at all!!.....in the "elegant" and controlled dynamics way I think!.....

Thanks a lot
Opacheco
 
I still use K-System, it just works and once you get it, its so good having absolute monitors levels, especially early on in the initial balance and using MCM (Mid Centric Monitoring like Cubes/NS10/Auraspheres)

Bouncing all over the shop with changing levels every time changes the freq contour so absolute levels make for much faster/creative mixing and actually way more consistent

My ears def tell me that K-12 for most genres and the perceived "size" below that is detrimental. If its mixed in the correct wave/crest etc it doesnt take much to have it mastered hot enough. Since I have been using the Auraspheres...they make "too far" just so obvious on so many levels. Literally changed my mix paradigm after 40 years and sold my NS10s, kept ATC for final loud check
 
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