Pvy AMR 800 Restore / Mods

[JimJhn]

Hi I had one of these years ago, a larger version than the one pictured.

I had a few spare modules Peavey gave me that might still be in the attic.

I sold the console quite awhile ago, but I think there was a master module and also a couple of channels up in my attic wrapped in brown paper.

I don't think anything ever broke on the console, just that Peavey for some reason sent me a few just in case?

I'll look in the next few days and see if they are still there or if I threw them out.

If they are still there you are welcome to them.

 

[Sturoc]

I had a few spare modules Peavey gave me that might still be in the attic.
I sold the console quite awhile ago, but I think there was a master module and also a couple of channels up in my attic wrapped in brown paper.

I don't think anything ever broke on the console, just that Peavey for some reason sent me a few just in case?
I'll look in the next few days and see if they are still there or if I threw them out.
If they are still there you are welcome to them.

Hi Jim Let me know, I will gladly take them as spares !

 

[orphanaudio]

@JohnRoberts I know this is a long shot, but all this talk about Jung Poon faders has me wondering if the company is still in business in some form or another, or perhaps an idea of who might have absorbed their assets.

Although JR has had some poor experiences with them, and I admit their variable fader-tang "wiggle" could be a source of consternation (no less of a concern than the short life of some P&G moving fader parts), my own history with Jung Poon faders was quite the opposite as the Euphonix Southern California regional field service manager. With over 350 CS-Series console installs in Major TV and Radio stations, Film Scoring and Post-production stages, Music composing/recording studios, Live sound reinforcement and countless celebrity owned personal/private studios in the So. Cal area from 1995 to 2008, at which point Avid acquired the company for its digital control surface technologies.
I have continued support for the CS-Series product line after it was discontinued in late 2008, now totaling over 30 years.

The point being,... (sorry I wandered off there for a moment,.......) with 20,000+ faders in CS consoles,... in all this time I have replaced exactly four (4) Jung Poon faders (new cost in 1000 quantities in the early 90's probably about $1usd ea), and two of them only because someone accidentally stepped on them while, in poor judgement, using the control surface as a stepladder to change a lightbulb. The other two simply wore-out on major network talk shows, but it took about 10 years of daily use to finally cause failure.

If I could find a low cost, fader with dual-rod construction of equal quality I would be very happy. Please let me know if you have any sort of data trail to locate a source these, or a suitable equivalent.

 

[JohnRoberts]

@JohnRoberts I know this is a long shot, but all this talk about Jung Poon faders has me wondering if the company is still in business in some form or another, or perhaps an idea of who might have absorbed their assets.

Nothing personal now, but briefly it was a personal problem for me to deal with. At this point, I don't know and don't care.

Although JR has had some poor experiences with them, and I admit their variable fader-tang "wiggle" could be a source of consternation

More than a "wiggle" the plastic wiper clip was brittle and would break too easily, making the faders unacceptable to my customers.

(no less of a concern than the short life of some P&G moving fader parts), my own history with Jung Poon faders was quite the opposite as the Euphonix Southern California regional field service manager. With over 350 CS-Series console installs in Major TV and Radio stations, Film Scoring and Post-production stages, Music composing/recording studios, Live sound reinforcement and countless celebrity owned personal/private studios in the So. Cal area from 1995 to 2008, at which point Avid acquired the company for its digital control surface technologies.

No doubt they changed the plastic material they used to fabricate the wiper clip so it wouldn't break if you looked at it crosseyed. *****

I have continued support for the CS-Series product line after it was discontinued in late 2008, now totaling over 30 years.

The point being,... (sorry I wandered off there for a moment,.......) with 20,000+ faders in CS consoles,... in all this time I have replaced exactly four (4) Jung Poon faders (new cost in 1000 quantities in the early 90's probably about $1usd ea), and two of them only because someone accidentally stepped on them while, in poor judgement, using the control surface as a stepladder to change a lightbulb. The other two simply wore-out on major network talk shows, but it took about 10 years of daily use to finally cause failure.

If I could find a low cost, fader with dual-rod construction of equal quality I would be very happy. Please let me know if you have any sort of data trail to locate a source these, or a suitable equivalent.

I have been out of the mixer/console business longer than some people reading these posts have been eating solid food.

JR

**** For another TMI about Peavey story, I have a second tragic plastic anecdote. I am not a tape recorder guy, but I was hired to support a 4T cassette deck literally just as it went into production. The 4T cassette deck used a serviceable (Japanese) transport. Years later I was forced to design a stand alone Karaoke unit with built in 2T cassette deck, amp and speaker. I decided to spec in a deck from that same Japanese vendor, just using a cheaper 2T head. I actually tried to refuse to do that product design but I was not given the option. Almost immediately we encountered field problems with the transport locking up on customers. I pulled out a bunch of my quickly graying hair trying to figure out what I was possibly doing wrong (different?), since this exact same transport with a 4T head worked reliably for years of 4T deck production. Long story short after losing customer/dealer support from most early supporters, and pretty much digging a deep hole that this product would never climb out of, the transport vendor finally admitted to me that they had changed the durometer of one of the plastic gears inside that engaged with the motor gear to lift the head assembly up into position. The new softer durometer plastic gear jammed with another harder (normal?) gear and locked the transport. I hated this product before this happened, but did a serviceable engineering design (that didn't suck IMO). It never recovered from this critically flawed market rollout. Somebody in Japan should have fallen on their sword (hara kiri?) over this, but surely didn't

 

[JimJhn]

Hey I'll look in the attic when I get back in town Monday. I need to clean up some of the mess up there anyways! I'll look where some old gear is stored though, which is where they would be. I can't remember how many years I had it before switching to a Trident for awhile, but I remember it worked fine and was maintenance-free for the time I had it. I still can't remember to be honest why AMR/Peavey gave me the extra modules, and whether I remembered to give them to who bought the console from me?

 

[Sturoc]

Thanks soo much Jim ! Keep me posted.