The microphone capsule photo and information thread

[rock soderstrom]

If it works, it works. If it sounds good, it sounds good…

I will test it tomorrow morning and hope for the best...EASZYMOD M251 is waiting!

 

[FetMe?FetU!]

Let's keep this thread as factual as possible, the topic is microphone capsules, you can talk a bit more about a certain capsule, but please no negative discussions about marketing lyrics of individual manufacturers. Thank you!

I am confused. I was making a joke. The quote is a Bill Murray line from the movie Ghostbusters. Maybe it was Lost in Translation? (Another Bill Murray movie) Besides, everyone knows that microphones don't need souls, as they are a little slice of heaven all by themselves. However, back to the fake JZ. Based on your experience with other capsules that come in dual and single-side options, do you think I should expect any tonal difference between the dual-sided vs. the single-sided versions of this one? I realize you can't know for sure, but in general, based on the group's experience, if that's fair to ask.

 

[quekoudd]

这些是 ck12 黄铜音头

Is this capsule for sale

 

[FetMe?FetU!]

Is this capsule for sale

Yes it is.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256...NzMxNDI4MDQyLjYwLjAuMA..&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

 

[FetMe?FetU!]

I assumed you were asking about the fake JZ, but if I am wrong and you were addressing another member, my sincere apologies. I'm GenX, so I'm used to it all being about me .

 

[kingkorg]

Back to the actual topic, how would you deal with such a situation?

Does this protrusion of the membrane material have any negative effects?
Trash can, need for action or just ignore it?

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PS: I didn't pay anything for this Rayking capsule.

You can ignore it, no negative effects. But you can easily remove it with an exacto. It's a good capsule.

If it works, it works. If it sounds good, it sounds good…

There are many cases where a capsule, or any gear, checks those boxes, and yet ugly side, anomaly, error hapens when you expect it the least, and you have no idea where it came from. This is especially true for any kind of transducer.

 

[rock soderstrom]

You can ignore it, no negative effects. But you can easily remove it with an exacto. It's a good capsule.

Thanks KK, good news! I also like the capsule, very good value for money

 

[Paul W]

Is it me, or does that Golden Drop pattern of spots seem like a dumb way to make a diaphragm?

My impression is that the weight of a microscopically thin layer of gold isn't significant, and if it were, you'd be better off with a somewhat thinner and partially transparent layer covering the usual inch-wide circle. (And maybe a pattern of small not-gold spots that coincides exactly with the backplate's blind and through holes, where you don't get significant capacitance anyhow; save the gold for where the backplate is close to the membrane.)

Their marketing reads like utter nonsense.

“Imagine a capsule that is wholly sputtered in one layer; it just resonates as one piece,” Evelis says. “But in our case, we have dozens of gold droplets, and they are all resonating. It makes it more accurate, more precise. Can we prove this in scientific tests? Theoretically maybe, but the main thing is that if you listen to any of our mics, you really hear the difference that our mics are clearer.”

https://gearspace.com/board/feature...op-capsule-enlightens-its-condenser-mics.html

 

[FetMe?FetU!]

I honestly wish I were qualified to comment. Many JZ owners love their microphones, which means to them these are good microphones. These customers are discerning listeners, professional musicians, and studio owners.

That does, however, remind me of a specific time at Sony when the company had moved from the one gun one lens CRT technology to 3 Gun 1 lens in order to lower production costs without impacting profit. This allowed Sony to sell lower-cost televisions to the masses, who ordinarily were priced out of Sony's range. After decades of lauding One Gun One Lens as a key reason for Sony's television picture quality, suddenly, it didn't make any difference anymore, and our televisions look the same regardless of one or three guns. I remember extended discussions regarding the actual value of the original design. Side by side, the televisions visually performed the same. On the test bench, they were incredibly close to each other. Did Sony invent a better beam focusing system or lens technology? No. Yet there is no doubt that these newer televisions looked as good as their one-gun counterparts. Sony made great-looking televisions, but apparently not because of one gun one lens. One gun one lens made for great marketing and training, just like aperture grill vs. shadow mask. It gave retail salespeople an easy story to tell and consumers something to grab onto, which justified the premium cost of a Sony TV compared to most similarly featured televisions. It certainly is not the only time in my years at Sony that marketing and promotion drove sales despite much of the marketing or "technological" advantages being hyped being total BS. As long as the product performed, we got away with it, but when the product failed to live up to the hype, oh boy, did we pay!

JZ makes really good-looking and good-performing microphones. Maybe it has nothing to do with Golden Drop, but man, does Golden Drop make a good story. We have a saying in sales and marketing: "The best story wins."

If JZ made an inferior product or was trying to sell Golden Drop capsules by themselves, there might be serious reason for concern, but as long as it is one component out of many and the microphones sound good, most people, even well-informed ones, normally don't care. If it's just marketing... well then its good marketing.

 

[k brown]

Nobody said they weren't good microphones.

There's just a greaat deal of scepticism that the the Golden Drop sputter offers anything superior to conventional sputtering. Especially since they don't offer any technical info that would support it.

A strong whiff of 'something different' just for marketing's sake.