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Nah. As much as I would have wished otherwise, that was nothing more than another political campaign stunt, regardless of how strong and legal it was; obviously not strong enough. I know some CA Democrats that said otherwise, because Newsom is way too left for them; he is for me too.
I don't understand how this logic works. It wasn't a stunt. If you really believe Newsom is bad for CA, why would you not support a completely legal recourse for replacing him? I gathered several petition signatures from neighbors and coworkers (but ended up leaving the state before the recall election). If the attempt was "not strong enough," I put the blame squarely on people who failed to act on their own convictions. Things don't get better when good men do nothing.

It’s amazing how plenty of the CA Right supported that, but said Trump’s impeachments were nothing more than political attacks and just attempts to undermine the voting will of the people.

Apples and pears. CA law allows for a recall election of the Governor if sufficient voter signatures are gathered within a certain timeframe. This was done.

Impeachment is just Congress slapping the wrist of POTUS and has no real legal standard to be met. They have hearings and if enough don't like the man or his actions they impeach him. It's purely political theater. The 25th Amendment is more akin to a recall.

The amount of hypocrisy since the beginning of the 2016 election cycle has soared to astronomical levels. Anyone not recognizing and admitting this is part of the problem. Anyone saying it’s not apples to apples is part of the problem as well. Illogical and unreasonable has taken over.
The hypocr-o-meter has been pegged for six years. Remember when Trump was going to start WWIII or a nuclear holocaust or ruin the economy...yet it was Biden who failed to engage in adequate diplomacy to prevent the Ukraine disaster. It is Biden who weakened our energy position and has failed to address inflation (spending trillions of tax dollars isn't helping). It is Biden who has put the country on the wrong path and the majority of Americans see it.

As much of an unmitigated loud-mouthed Yankee blowhard as Trump was (and still is), his policies improved our position in the world and put our country on a better path. Three years of improvement were ended by a purposeful overreaction to Covid, endless fearmongering based on half truths and lies, and subversion by the permanent bureaucracy (a.k.a. "the science").
 
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I have heard the audio clips. They are easily retrieved from the internet(they were played over and over by most media outlets). What are you referencing?
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This is pretty old news and has been rebutted. But keeps getting dredged up to discredit exPresident Trump.

politifact said:
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastructure permitting. Reporters shortly began asking questions about Trump’s initial response to violent protests in Charlottesville, Va. It was at this press conference that Trump said that "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

On April 25, 2019, former Vice President Joe Biden declared his 2020 candidacy for the Democratic nomination and the presidency by recalling the events in Charlottesville and Trump’s comments. "With those words, the president of the United States assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it," Biden said.

The next day, Trump responded, saying "If you look at what I said, you will see that that question was answered perfectly. And I was talking about people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee, a great general. Whether you like it or not, he was one of the great generals." Trump also said he would defeat Biden "very easily."

The cancel culture is still trying to erase historical figure Gen. Robert E Lee, trying to scrub his name from buildings at West Point military academy as recently as a week ago.

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I recorded and tried to watch the POTUS speech last night, it took about 5-6 minutes into it for him to insult me, and millions of others. I stopped watching at that point. It seems none of the networks carried his speech, and the night before Labor day is not when the public is paying much attention. Maybe he is trying to test this strategy with his base? It is unconventional for politicians to blatantly insult voters. Hillary was criticized for her "basket of deplorables" comment. Some didn't learn from that.

Politics is all about painting pictures with words. Try to form your own opinions about individuals. Politicians who have been on the scene for decades have a significant track record that can be reviewed. While some have embarrasing facts that get suppressed/hidden by friendly media.

JR
 
The cancel culture is still trying to erase historical figure Gen. Robert E Lee
No, no, no. That's not "erasing" an historical figure. That's ceasing to honor a traitor by having govt. buildings named after him. It's acknowledging that honoring people who attacked the nation and defended slavery is not a good idea. He's not being removed from history.

This is pretty old news and has been rebutted.
Feel free to repeat the rebuttal. I have never heard anything that counters Trump's confession of serial sexual assaults.

it took about 5-6 minutes into it for him to insult me, and millions of others.
You know, I was calling the Trumpist right fascist on this very board probably 2 years ago, maybe longer ago than that. It's old news, but I'm certainly glad to see broader acknowledgement of it. Are you insulted, or just ticked off that you all were called out in public?
 
A slight veer, but it's nice to see that Rick Scott and McConnell are not seeing eye to eye right now (McConnell and megadonor Peter Thiel are also apparently not happy with one another, but that's another story.)
Defiant Rick Scott explains ‘strategic disagreement’ with McConnell over battle for Senate

I don't care for Mitch, but he's not wrong. Herschel Walker, Mehmet Oz, and JD Vance are lousy candidates. I'm not saying that one (or possibly more) of them won't win (Alabama elected Tuberville, for pete's sake, and he's an embarrassment), but they've all done a very bad job of campaigning so far.
 
No, no, no. That's not "erasing" an historical figure. That's ceasing to honor a traitor by having govt. buildings named after him. It's acknowledging that honoring people who attacked the nation and defended slavery is not a good idea. He's not being removed from history.
The civil war ended over a century ago, why keep dredging it up? Perhaps to stir up racial animus?
Feel free to repeat the rebuttal. I have never heard anything that counters Trump's confession of serial sexual assaults.
I don't think he rebutted that. I won't bore you with examples from your party.
You know, I was calling the Trumpist right fascist on this very board probably 2 years ago, maybe longer ago than that. It's old news, but I'm certainly glad to see broader acknowledgement of it. Are you insulted, or just ticked off that you all were called out in public?
Are you calling me (us millions of Trump voters) fascist?

wiki said:
wiki said:
is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, [1] [2] [3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong …

JR
 
I recorded and tried to watch the POTUS speech last night, it took about 5-6 minutes into it for him to insult me, and millions of others....It is unconventional for politicians to blatantly insult voters.

Donal Trump said:
“emboldened Radical Left Democrats,” “a crooked and vicious foe,” “cheated in the Election,” “trying to STEAL this Election,” “didn’t want to have me get a Vaccine WIN,” “trying to steal this Election,” “WANT TO SHUT YOUR CHURCHES DOWN, PERMANENTLY,” “GOT CAUGHT COLD IN THE (NON) FRIENDLY TRANSFER OF GOVERNMENT,” “WENT FOR A COUP,” “CRAZY!” “Rigging our 2020 Election!” “want ELECTION MAYHEM,” “only want BAILOUT MONEY for Blue States that are doing badly,” “They don’t care about the people, never did!” “‘heartless’,” “don’t want to give STIMULUS PAYMENTS to people who desperately need the money,” “horrendous people,” “have had 100 years and they gave you nothing but heartache,” “They will say anything,” “lies,” “Sick!” “VICIOUS,” “very sick,” “stupid,” “Con!” “lies on Russia, Football (PLAY!) and everything else!” “Crooked,” “LIE,” “Dems don’t have a clue!” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “are more interested in playing politics than in helping our deserving people,” “They are CRAZY!” “have gone Stone Cold Left - Venezuela on steroids!” “totally control Biden,” “will destroy our Country as we know it,” “Radical Left Do Nothing Democrat,” “want Open Borders for anyone, including many criminals,” “Radical Left Do Nothing Democrats,” “CRAZY!” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Incredible stupidity!” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “They have abandoned DACA,” “doing totally false advertising,” “have done NOTHING for years,” “they now have a Fake ad that my China Deal is losing us jobs,” “fake and fraudulent ads,” “They did nothing when they had the chance,” “soft,” “Do Nothing,” “don’t have a clue,” “The Radical Left Democrats have gone Crazy!” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left Democrats,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “vicious,” “MUST pay a big price for what they have done to our Country,” “trying to steal the Mike Garcia Congressional Race in California,” “trying to steal another election,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “doing everything possible to hurt and disparage our Country,” “The Enemy of the People,” “just, as always, looking for trouble,” “do nothing constructive, even in times of crisis,” “#DONOTHINGDEMOCRATS,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “Radical Left Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “RUDE and NASTY.,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrat,” “Radical Left Democrats,” “have gone absolutely crazy,” “It is “HELL” dealing with the Dems,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Democrat Party,” “doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation,” “didn’t have a clue,” “fear mongering,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left,” “working hard to destroy the name and reputation of Crazy Bernie Sanders,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “busy wasting their time on the Impeachment Hoax & anything they could do to make the Republican Party look bad,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “wasting time on the Immigration Hoax & anything else they could do to make the Republican Party look bad,” “working hard to take the prized nomination away from Bernie,” “If the virus disappeared tomorrow, they would say we did a really poor, and even incompetent, job,” “incompetent Do Nothing Democrat comrades are all talk, no action,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing,” “Radical Socialist Democrats,” “the party of high taxes, high crime, open borders, late-term abortion, socialism, blatant corruption, and the total destruction of your Second Amendment,” “Crooked DNC,” “working overtime to take the Democrat Nomination away from Bernie, AGAIN,” “they have a really boring deal going on,” “Corrupt Democrat politicians,” “crazed,” “honesty & truth don’t matter to them,” “badly wounded,” “crazed,” “Do Nothing Democrats,,” “can’t do anything right,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “corrupt practices!” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “incompetence,” “Nothing will ever satisfy the Do Nothing, Radical Left Dems,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “No matter what you give to the Democrats, in the end, they will NEVER be satisfied,” “Partisan Hoaxes, Witch Hunts, & Con Jobs,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “are scamming America,” “now the party of high taxes, high crime, open borders, late-term abortion, socialism, and blatant corruption,” “want to make it harder for Presidents to defend America,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing,” “They know it’s a con,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrat Party,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “angry & deranged”,” “Do Nothing Democrats,ought to go back to work for our great American people,” “No matter what you give to the Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats, it will never be enough!” “Are going to destroy your Social Security,” “working hard to take away your 2nd Amendment rights,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “have done great harm to our Country,” “the party of high taxes, high crime, open borders, late-term abortion, socialism, and blatant corruption,” “Rafical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing,” “run by the Radical Left,” “the Do Nothing Party,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “unhinged”,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “the party of high taxes, high crime, open borders, late-term abortion, socialism, and blatant corruption,” “Hypocrites,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats vicious, will say anything,Liars,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats have gone CRAZY,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left Democrats,” “gave me no Due Process,” “they have zero proof of anything, they will never even show up,” “CRAZY EXTREME policies are chasing common sense people out of the Dem Party,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “Do Nothing Party,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “The Do Nothings are so bad for our Country,” “they were all breaking the law in so many ways,” “These people are Crazy,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “SUCH ATROCIOUS LIES BY THE RADICAL LEFT, DO NOTHING DEMOCRATS,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “being absolutely decimated in their districts,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “the Party of Hate,” “so bad for our Country,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Dems,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “the Party of lies and deception,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “a disgrace,” “No Due Process, Do Nothing Democrats,” “horror show,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “demeaning our Country,” “they have gone crazy,” “Do Nothing, Radical Left Democrats,” “If the Radical Left Democrats were sane, which they are not,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats should finally go back to work,” “Radical Left,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “hurting our Country, and they don’t care,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “playing partisan politics with YOUR drug prices,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats have disgraced our great Country,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Dems are now doing even less,” “Crazed, Do Nothing Democrats,” “would love to see a nice, big, juicy recession,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “stacked the deck against President Trump,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Dems have gone crazy,” “Do Nothing Dems are losers for America,” “Radical Left Dems,” “Radical Left Dems are killing our cities,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Crooked Democrats,” “a mess,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “have gone Crazy,” “Very bad for USA!” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats FAIL the American People,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “working hard to make everyone forget the Best Economy Ever,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “They have a Death Wish,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “They have a Death Wish,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Do Nothing Democrats. Nothing good will ever come from them,” “Do Nothing Democrats are doing just as their name suggests, Doing Nothing,” “blatant corruption,” “the party of high taxes, high crime, open borders, late-term abortion, socialism, and blatant corruption,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left Dems,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “Con Artists, only looking to hurt the Republican Party and President,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats,” “Radical Left Democrats have failed on all fronts,” “lousy politicians,” “really bad policies,” “#DONOTHINGDEMOCRATS,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “interfering in the 2020 Election,” “must be stopped,” “Do Nothing Dems have lost all credibility,” “Do Nothing Dems,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “#DONOTHINGDEMS,” “willing to hurt the Country, with only the 2020 Election in mind,” “Do Nothing Democrats are stuck in mud,” “trying to undo the Election regardless of FACTS,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “wasting everyone’s time and energy on BULLSHIT,” “WANT TO STEAL THE ELECTION,” “disgraceful what the Do Nothing Democrats are doing,” “also disgraceful what they are NOT doing,” “Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats doing great harm to our Country,” “lying & cheating like never before in our Country’s history Dangerous & Bad,” “Do Nothing Democrat Savages,” “Do Nothing Democrats,” “DO NOTHING PARTY,” “TRYING TO DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND ALL THAT IT STANDS FOR,” “frozen with hatred and fear,” “get nothing done,” “so focused on hurting the Republican Party and the President that they are unable to get anything done,” “Radical Left Democrats,” “at it again,” “hurting our Country, and getting nothing done,” “they failed on everything,” “These Radical Left Democrats are CRAZY,” “Radical Left Democrats,” “total Obstruction,” “total Obstruction,” “only want to raise your taxes,” “working overtime to convince people that we are in, or will soon be going into, a Recession,” “want Open Borders and Crime!” “trying to “will” the Economy to be bad for purposes of the 2020 Election,” “Very Selfish!” “such disdain for Israel!” “Radical Left Dems,” “truly disgusting!” “Radical Left Dems,” “wanting very unsafe Open Borders,” “today is not about them,” “they are totally lost they are Clowns!” “still doing the Russians dirty work,” “credibility is shot,” “always play the Race Card when in fact they have done so little for our Nation’s great African American people,” “sick & disgusting and bad for our Country,” “What they are doing is so wrong but they do it anyway,” “have become the do nothing Party!” “don’t care about Border Security,” “They want Open Borders which means CRIMECRIMECRIME!” “Trump hating,” “Nothing will ever be good enough for them.,” “Party is in shambles right now,” “Radical Left,” “phony,” “have done nothing but waste time on this ridiculous Witch Hunt,” “Radical Left,” “Radical Left,” “getting nothing done,” “con game,” “filthy language statements and lies,” “they are endorsing Socialism hate of Israel and the USA!” “Radical Left Democrats,” “vicious and totally crazed,” “totally unwilling to give Wall votes to us want Open Borders!” “They want Open Borders which means massive crime and drugs!” “bad Immigration Laws which could be easily fixed,” “Just Pols,” “won’t do anything at all about Border Security,” “lost the impeachment debate,” “extreme,” “depraved, Agenda of open borders is morally reprehensible,” “great betrayal of the American Middle Class and our Country as a whole!” “moral cowardice,” “Obstruction,” “their hearings are RIGGED and a disgrace to our Country!” “extreme Presidential Harassment,” “DEMOCRAT CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS ARE #RIGGED!” “The only ones who won’t do anything,” “Radical Left,” “They can’t win the election fairly!” “Radical Left,” “getting NO work done on Drug Pricing Infrastructure & many other things,” “Radical Left,” “fight us at every turn,” “accomplishing nothing for the people,” “absolutely ‘Loco’ or Unhinged,” “wrong all along,” “trying to destroy the Trump Presidency,” “are doing NOTHING they want Open Borderswhich means Illigal Immigration Drugs and Crime.,” “just want a do-over which they’ll never get!” “getting nothing done,” “have no intention of doing anything other going on a fishing expedition to see if they can find anything on me,” “getting Zero work done in Congress,” “incapable of doing a good and solid Immigration Bill!” “doing nothing,” “Radical Liberal,” “getting nothing done,” “frozen stiff,” “Radical Left, vicious and desperate,” “want Open Borders which equals crime!” “Obstructionists,” “are getting NOTHING done in Congress,” “would rather see the United States fail than see me or the Republican Party succeed,” “the Do Nothing Party!” “they should go back to work,” “the Radical Left,” “must get back to work,” “So bad for our Country!” “Fake work on their very disappointing Mueller Report finding,” “on a fishing expedition,” “getting ZERO work done in Congress,” “pathetic,” “They are a sad JOKE!” “acting like crazed lunatics,” “have gone “nuts”,” “the Radical Left,” “the Radical Left,” “they only want to talk about Obstruction,” “They play very dirty,” “have no idea the problems they are causing for themselves,” “VERY UNFAIR!” “Radical Left Democrats,” “The Radical Left,” “have gone totally insane!” “Radical Liberal Dems,” “The Radical Left,” “do not want to go on to Legislate for the good of the people, but only to Investigate and waste time,” “All they do is Investigate, as it turns out, crimes that they instigated & committed,” “Radical Left,” “will never be satisfied with anything we give them,” “always Resist and Obstruct!” “Radical Left,” “Radical Left,” “They should stop wasting time and money and get back to real legislating,” “Radical Left,” “always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy,” “TREASONOUS,” “putting our Country at risk,” “always fighting to stop you!” “There is nothing we can ever give to the Democrats that will make them happy,” “Presidential Harassment,” “have become totally unhinged,” “Radical Left Democrats,” “crazed,” “have given us the weakest immigration laws anywhere in the World,” “getting very “strange”,” “Fake News Media,” “using every trick in the book to SILENCE a majority of our Country,” “Radical Left,” “trying to steal a Presidential Election,” “Total disrespect!” “Far Left Radicals,” “Obstruction,” “Radical Left,” “They are desperately trying to find anything they can, even a punctuation mistake in a document!” “obstructing justice and will not get anything done,” “the real crime is what the Dems are doing, and have done!” “hurting our Country,” “The Democrat position on abortion is now so extreme that they don’t mind executing babies AFTER birth,” “Had the opposition party (no, not the Media) won the election, the Stock Market would be down at least 10,000 points by now,” “so self righteous and ANGRY!” “vicious,” “such hatred and scorn!” “going ‘nuts.’,” “the Party of late term abortion,” “big fans of being weak and passive with Iran,” “no clue,” “kidding themselves,” “They don’t see crime & drugs, they only see 2020,” “has become totally unhinged,” “a Party of open borders and crime,” “the Party of Crime,” “They only want to impeach me because they know they can’t win in 2020,” “Colluded,” “Presidential Harassment,” “Obstructing,” “Bad!” “left town and are not concerned about the safety and security of Americans!” “they are spending so much time on Presidential Harassment that they have little time left for things like stopping crime and our military!” “pathetic immigration policies,” “Obstructionist,” “OBSTRUCTION,” “They don’t have much to campaign on, do they?” “such stupidity!” “putting politics over Country,” “want Open Borders for anyone to come in,” “corrupt,” “Trying to STEAL two big elections in Florida!” “waste Taxpayer Money,” “they will try to raise your taxes, restore job-killing regulations, shut down your coal mines and timber mills, take away your healthcare, impose socialism, and ERASE your borders,” “went insane,” “obstructionists,” “they want Open Borders and existing weak laws,” “too EXTREME and TOO DANGEROUS to govern,” “mean & despicable,” “VICIOUS AND DESPICABLE,” “have done NOTHING for African-Americans but TALK,” “only thinking Obstruct and Delay,” “playing a high level CON GAME,” “vicious,” “working hard to destroy a wonderful man,” “radical left wing politicians who don’t want to know the answers,” “just want to destroy and delay,” “obstructing Law Enforcement and Border Security,” “If the Democrats take control, kiss your newfound wealth goodbye!” “flailing & lying like CRAZY!” “Very dishonest people!” “Crazy,” “mean, angry, and despicable,” “looking to inflict pain and embarrassment,” “So sad,” “all talk and no action,” “Obstruct,” “want Open Borders and care little about Crime,” “incompetent,” “all the Dems know how to do is resist and obstruct,” “crazies,” “declaring war on Law & Order,” “want Open Borders,” “want Open Borders and Unlimited Crime,” “all they do is RESIST,” “They want Open Borders and don’t care about Crime!” “Obstructionists,” “don’t care about Crime coming from Border!” “doing nothing but Obstructing,” “just playing games,” “have no intention of doing anything,” “want open Borders, where anyone can come into our Country, and stay. This is Nancy Pelosi’s dream,” “they don’t care about security,” “They won’t vote for anything!” “They want open borders,” “terrible policies,” “weak and ineffective,” “Democrats are good at only three things, High Taxes, High Crime and Obstruction,” “Sad!” “forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda,” “make up a phony crime,” “pay a fortune to make the crime sound real,” “illegally leak (Comey) classified information,” “Really bad!” “High Tax, High Crime, easy to beat!” “can’t get their act together!” “have depleted our military and busted our budgets on needless spending,” “weak on Crime, the Border and want to be gentle and kind to MS-13 gang members,” “not good!” “PROTECTING MS-13 THUGS,” “so obviously rooting against us in our negotiations with North Korea,” “coming to the defense of MS 13 thugs,” “have lost touch!” “criticize Trade Deals being negotiated by me when they don’t even know what the deals are,” “The only Collusion was that done by Democrats,” “doing everything possible to obstruct, all they know how to do,” “want to disarm law-abiding Americans at the same time they are releasing dangerous criminal aliens and savage gang members onto our streets,” “Obstructionists,” “Obstructionist,” “obstructing good (hopefully great) people wanting,” “They are “slow walking” all of my nominations,”
 
Trump was vocal about attacking democratic politicians, not democratic voters.

I do not enjoy defending a blowhard... Trump is also guilty of punching down, but he never heard the one about turning the other cheek.

I think we could arrange a pay per view bout between President Biden and exPresident Trump, this could raise a lot of money for charity, but would never happen.

Biden said:
Biden had been asked about debating the then-GOP nominee, and he said to the crowd: “They asked me would I like to debate this gentleman, and I said no. I said, ‘If we were in high school, I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.’”



JR
 
Trump was vocal about attacking democratic politicians, not democratic voters.

So "MAGA Republicans" when said by a Democratic President means "all GOP voters", and "Radical Left Democrats" when said by a Republican President only means Democratic politicians? #mindreading
 
24 June 2021
"President Joe Biden says at the White House that insurrectionists would need a lot more than guns to take on the US government because it is equipped with a nuclear arsenal and war planes."

I am no mind reader but it sure sounds like he said the government would nuke it's own citizens.
 
24 June 2021
"President Joe Biden says at the White House that insurrectionists would need a lot more than guns to take on the US government because it is equipped with a nuclear arsenal and war planes."

I am no mind reader but it sure sounds like he said the government would nuke it's own citizens.
He's just being a blowhard.
 
I am no mind reader but it sure sounds like he said the government would nuke it's own citizens.
I read it to mean you'd have to be an idiot to think you are going to take on the Federal Government with small arms.
 
So "MAGA Republicans" when said by a Democratic President means "all GOP voters", and "Radical Left Democrats" when said by a Republican President only means Democratic politicians? #mindreading
I own a red MAGA hat. I endorse President Trump's actual policies (like closing the border). Am I "ultra maga"?

This new democratic branding of republicans as "ultra MAGA" is a partisan invention to generate an imaginary division between republicans. The vast majority of republicans support Trump policies. They don't all support Trump's social media rants.

For the record President Biden was able to peel off some republican support because he promised to be a business as usual "uniter" who wouldn't spew divisive rhetoric. Now he is shaping up to be as much of a blowhard as Trump ever was and clearly more divisive.

I/we want Trump's policies back, with or without Trump. My suspicion is that the left is secretly angling to run against Trump in '24 because they think they can beat him, more easily than someone like Gov Desantis, which is probably true. Classic political strategy is to divide and conquer.

Don't underestimate the mainstream republicans. We've been watching this kabuki theater go on for years now and can see the activity behind the curtain.

Good luck with this strategy for Nov, and in 2024.

JR
 
Trying to parse Biden's uttering literally is not productive...don't parse what Biden says for "literal accuracy".
Only Trump can be taken literally. Right? Or is it all evil Republicans? I can never keep track. Or are you giving Uncle Joe a pass because of his dementia, maybe? Or just because it was so obviously wrong.
 
From WaPo:

Former attorney general William P. Barr, who served under Donald Trump, said Friday that there is no legitimate reason for the former president to have taken boxes of declassified documents to his Mar-a-Lago home.

I don't care for Bill Barr's politics at all, and the man bent over backwards to please Donald Trump (until he finally stopped doing so.) He's not an idiot though. I'm not sure what it takes to convince hardcore Trumpists that their lord and saviour was crimin' big time. Is it even possible to make them question their seemingly unshakable faith in the man?
 
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