DaveP said:
I really cannot be bothered to argue with you about what our ancestors did or did not do. I cannot change what happened, I was not involved in what happened and I refuse to feel guilty about it. I would remind you that the British commonwealth is still working well, it doesn't exactly support your bayonet jibe.
The influence of the west isn't limited to your commonwealth. I'm not suggesting you feel guilty of anything you weren't even indirectly responsible for, I'm only suggesting that if your country is responsible for something then
it might be morally obligated to take the consequences for that.
DaveP said:
Regarding abortion: I don't mind admitting that I totally agree with Trump on this.
I think abortion should only occur if the mother's life is in danger, or in cases of rape or incest.
I totally support women's rights in terms of equality (I'm a feminist remember) but I also believe in everyone's responsibilities, including women. We have had the pill for 50+ years and sex education for longer than that, so there is absolutely no excuse to use abortion as a birth control method. There are lots of childless couples out there who would be only too willing to take an unwanted child. A friend of my daughter has had 3 abortions, completely irresponsible.
DaveP
Well, now you know why women are protesting. In addition to this,
a lot of conservatives who agree with this decision also agree with tying aid to third world countries with the mandate to teach abstention rather than birth control. So again you're de facto aligning yourself with groups that really promote something that has effects directly in opposition to what you say you want to see accomplished.
And look at what at least used to be one of the absolutely most wealthy, advanced, democratic, healthy states on the planet - Sweden - and see how it and others like it, at the very forefront of all of what we want, got there by liberating women and giving them not just equal rights but control over their own bodies.
That is part of the key to wealth, health and a smaller population.
But as usual men want to decide what women do to their bodies. I'd reiterate again the yearning for a more modest woman to boot, and I think we see clearly the disconnect between not just conservative but reactionary views and progressive ones.
Again; you may not like the way Swedish women behave or look and the abortions they've had, but Sweden led the way along with a handful of others in the 60's-70's, and for good reason.