Good budget ribbon mics

[Whoops]

The Coles 4038, originally designed by the BBC in the '50s is still the best ribbon out there.

The Coles/STC 4038 is a great Ribbon microphone, it's not Best or Worst than most of the good stuff out there, it's very good like others are very good and all of them are useful.

 

[miczone]

Re: AEA R84 vs Royer 120- much larger ribbon in the AEA and cinemag xfmer. bigger wider band width. if i had to choose between the two, id go AEA all day as i find them way more useful.

i have a re ribboned mxl r40 that sounds pretty great-will probably switch out the iron to compare the differences.

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I have a quick note on the MXL R40. I modded an R144, which I think is a later version of the R40. I removed the inner screen from the headbasket, and it really improved the high end. I replaced the original xfmr with a Cinemag, and that improved the sound as well, but not as much as removing the inner screen.

 

[Rusan]

i have a re ribboned mxl r40 that sounds pretty great-will probably switch out the iron to compare the differences.

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I have a quick note on the MXL R40. I modded an R144, which I think is a later version of the R40. I removed the inner screen from the headbasket, and it really improved the high end. I replaced the original xfmr with a Cinemag, and that improved the sound as well, but not as much as removing the inner screen.

I'll second miczone's post. I bought an R40 used for cheap, then re-ribboned it with 1.8 micron foil, removed the inner headbasket screen, and installed an amorphous core Mesanovic toroidal transformer. It's an incredible sounding mic, especially for less than $200 total.

 

[cfanzalone]

I've had tremendous success (5 total over the years) with an Apex 210's AND 210 B's modified by Stephen Sank (Talking Dog Transducer)...NOS RCA ribbon material and Cinemag tranny...beats all others (no names)...Phenomenal mic!!
NO, I don't work for him...just a very satisfied customer and willing to help with my experience...

 

[HerbertR]

I upgraded with Lundahl LL2912 Ribbon Mic Transformers with amorphous core the Nohype LRM 2B mics. Personally, I would absolutely buy these mics directly with Lundahl option. You won't really save any money doing this in hindsight. And for those who already have the standard version: do this simple Lundahl upgrade or let Nohype upgrade them.... Standard TX is not bad, but Lundahls deliver exactly the sound I expected. Definitely better defined character, clear bass. Amazingly decent treble. Definitely a great upgrade. One thing I can say for now after a few days... Hammer....

 

[Rud]

I also have a pair of BIV 1 ribbons from Igor. It took like 4 months for them to arrive in the US. This was before the what have you . . . (Don't mention the war!) If you might have been pessimistic waiting form months before, well good luck now. Anyway, they are amazing. He has some pretty nice sounding samples on his site too. I'd say they are indicative of what these mics are capable of. They're very rich and balanced. The are a bit dark But they are so smooth and easy to eq. One of the BIV 3 is definitely something I'd love to add to the mic locker.

I just got a pair of BIV 1 ribbons from ebay for $380ish and they're a land of contrasts. Pros: fantastic sounding for voice, dead quiet, very sensitive, sound a bit like the voice setting on my voice on the Cloud 44A. Cons: incredibly microphonic, low end rumble like nothing else (picking up a next door fridge), so vulnerable to plosives (pop filter is mandatory), did I mention so plosive-prone that drumming on a guitar could pop it, chrome finish had scratches, the mic body feels/sounds kind of cheap, and there was what looked like plastic stuffed up above the XLR jack when I peaked inside.

Mics are largely how they sound and I really liked the sound, Just in comparison to what I had lying around, I liked the BIV-1 for spoken word as much as a Cloud 44A, SE VR2, EH-R1, Coles 4104, Blue Woodpecker, and Rode NTR. It was leading the pack with the most expensive options. I wish I could redesign the body with a compliant mechanism internal shock mount like the Rode NTR. The body is reminiscent of the straight tube B&O ribbons but not as well fit.

At $230ish/ea. they qualify as great budget ribbon mics. I want more of them, I want to try the BIV 3, but really I want to gut the BIV 1 and design it a new body because the drawbacks in the physical design are very evident.

 

[JeffKall]

I just got a pair of BIV 1 ribbons from ebay for $380ish and they're a land of contrasts. Pros: fantastic sounding for voice, dead quiet, very sensitive, sound a bit like the voice setting on my voice on the Cloud 44A. Cons: incredibly microphonic, low end rumble like nothing else (picking up a next door fridge), so vulnerable to plosives (pop filter is mandatory), did I mention so plosive-prone that drumming on a guitar could pop it, chrome finish had scratches, the mic body feels/sounds kind of cheap, and there was what looked like plastic stuffed up above the XLR jack when I peaked inside.

Mics are largely how they sound and I really liked the sound, Just in comparison to what I had lying around, I liked the BIV-1 for spoken word as much as a Cloud 44A, SE VR2, EH-R1, Coles 4104, Blue Woodpecker, and Rode NTR. It was leading the pack with the most expensive options. I wish I could redesign the body with a compliant mechanism internal shock mount like the Rode NTR. The body is reminiscent of the straight tube B&O ribbons but not as well fit.

At $230ish/ea. they qualify as great budget ribbon mics. I want more of them, I want to try the BIV 3, but really I want to gut the BIV 1 and design it a new body because the drawbacks in the physical design are very evident.

I purchased a pair of BIV-1’s ribbons directly from Igor back in early 2018 … along with his 48V J-Decor’s …

They are remarkably great sounding and very well made … and do not exhibit any of the Cons that you alluded to in your pair …

I also was interested in more of his offerings …but Igor stopped selling to the United States a few years ago because as he explained to me in a cycle of emails … he was frustrated by a company operating a counterfeit version of his website and selling unauthorized (and subpar) versions of his products … plus being unable to offer PayPal as a purchase option for his products …

I had periodically reached out to Igor via email (my last contact was about 2 years ago) to see if his US sales embargo was lifted … but sadly no luck …

I love my BIV-1’s … and I am very sad was unable to purchase more of Igor’s ribbon mic offerings …

The BIV-1’s are a very impressive sounding pair of ribbons that acquit themselves well in most of the places you would use a Royer 120 …

I use mine mainly for drum overheads and I have used them for acoustic guitar and solo clarinet … but I have yet to work up the nerve to stick them in front of a guitar amp …

I absolutely recommend the 48V J-Decor option … and admonish everyone to embrace the wise practice of storing ribbon mics with the ribbons oriented vertically to help offset ribbon sag …

Best regards …