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skyy7

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Hello!

I am still a beginner in all this, but I arrogantly bought a broken ST79 and was attempting to fix it. The circuit seems to be a KM84 copy with a DC-DC external polarization board that outputs 60V.

Initially, the mic's output would increase and decrease every few seconds. I found that the JFET's drain and source were shorted together, and I replaced the 2SK170 with a J305 with a matching IDSS. When I attempted to solder everything back up, I noticed there was now no output. I am trying to diagnose it, but I do NOT understand how the capsule is polarized in this circuit. The capsule is a 3-wire 32mm K67 copy. I tried my best to trace the circuit and filled out as many values as I could.

I measure 1.28V at "R1" and "R2" when the mic is in Omni, but I believe these are the polarizing voltages with a high impedance, so I don't think I can measure it with my multimeter. 16.9V at "E" and "VL".

My question is... What is E and VL? E seems to be where the backplate wire connects to, but why is there 16.9V? It seems the capsule is polarized at the membrane via a 1G resistor while the output is taken at the backplate. At what point should the membrane and backplate connect to the circuit?

When injecting a 1kHz signal at 0.1V at the gate, I get a good output, but when injecting the same signal at "E," I get no output. Please let me know if I am missing anything. Thank you in advance!
 

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I hope you kept in mind that the two have a different pinout, right?

Otherwise, I'm not sure about the "KM84-ness" of the circuit, since that's the only board NOT pictured, but the capsule bias generator & pattern switching reminds me a lot of the CAD GXL3000.

http://recordinghacks.com/images/mic_extras/cad/gxl3000-schematic.png

See if it resembles your mic at all.
Yup, not going to make that mistake again... saw that the pinout was different and adjusted accordingly. Based on the test signals I think that section of the mic is fine.

Looking at CAD it seems to be super similar but not an exact copy. Thanks for the find! So based on the CAD circuit, E should be connected to the backplate yet when it is there is no output...

I've just tested the capsule in another circuit and there was no problems. And why would there be 17V at the backplate? Is that normal?
 

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