New form of fraud😡

[cyrano]

They probably bought an email list. These emails usually come from a site that has broken security. Someone steals the entire user database and offers that for 10$ on one of the hacker fora.

They'll keep using that list until they get no response at all. If it's a big list, that might take a while.

 

[JohnRoberts]

They probably bought an email list. These emails usually come from a site that has broken security. Someone steals the entire user database and offers that for 10$ on one of the hacker fora.

They'll keep using that list until they get no response at all. If it's a big list, that might take a while.

I remain reluctant to click on unsubscribe link because a) I never subscribed to anything, and b) that would confirm that it is a live email address.

I get the same general phishing request claiming to be from different people, different companies.

I just click on the junk button and eventually the email program should handle these.

JR

 

[JohnRoberts]

OK this f'r is getting more irritating. Now they are sending 5 or 6 emails at a time. Presumably from different people at different companies.

Coincidentally the "click here" links and the "unsubscribe links" all go to the same one url https://campaign-statistics.com/unsubscribe/

So this is one automated operation.... I decline to click on the unsubscribe to confirm it's an active email.

[edit I set up a junk mail filter for these three email addresses but I expect they have more./edit]

JR

 

[cyrano]

Doesn't smell like spam...

More like someone trying to annoy Sender (the owner of campaignstatistics.com. Or someone who is trying to rack up the counter (since it's politics in this case).

Sender is a legit mailing site, afaik.

 

[JohnRoberts]

Doesn't smell like spam...

It walks and quacks like a duck (spam).

More like someone trying to annoy Sender (the owner of campaignstatistics.com.

? they are surely annoying me, fraudulently claiming that I initiated contact. This is common scam strategy.

Or someone who is trying to rack up the counter (since it's politics in this case).

Politics? They are offering me a pre-approved, unsecured credit line of hundreds of $k. This is a classic lure to get a sucker in debt hooked by the offer of free money to then charge incidental fees. I could image a failing business responding.

Sender is a legit mailing site, afaik.

I am very confident that these are not legitimate offers.

"Based on records from your previous finance manager, XXXXXXXXXX is expected to require additional capital in Q2. In anticipation, you've been pre-approved for an unsecured line of credit up to $355,500, with no personal guarantee needed."
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"I'm reaching out with fantastic news for XXXXXXX! After conducting a thorough review of your updated business credit profile, we are delighted to offer an unsecured line of credit up to $315,250, with no personal guarantee required. Moreover, we've secured an interest rate reduction of over one percent.
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"I wanted to share some exciting updates regarding XXXXXXXXX financing options. You’ve been approved for an unsecured line of credit up to $355,000, with a significant rate decrease of over two percent since our last contact. We can provide funding within 48 hours once you choose an offer.
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"You received this email because you signed up on our website or made a purchase from us."


All total bullshit...No personal guarantee required? I did not sign up on their website, they may have stolen my contact info from a hacked vendor.

even the addresses they list in their offers are total BS

SteadyLineCapital
San Bernard Trail,
US
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AccessCapitalOnline
Deerwood James Island Way,
US
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Fidelity Capital Solutions
West Melissa Circle,
US

I am suspicious that this scam may be coming from outside the US due to the trailing comma instead of decimal point on funding offer dollar amounts.

I'll see if the spam filter targeting these specific email addresses works from here.

JR

 

[cyrano]

The offer in the mail isn't real. If it's spam, it's an effort to try and get you to pay a few hundred dollars for an insurance, or transfer fee, or whatever.

But the link in the mail goes to a Sender unsubscribe page. So the scam would fail anyway.

It could be Sender who's redirecting the scam link. Or it's a way to force Sender to waste some time and money on this problem.

To figure out where the mail came from, I'd need to take a look at the headers of the original mail. And that's supposing these headers aren't fake, or obfuscated.

 

[JohnRoberts]

The offer in the mail isn't real.

ya think?

If it's spam, it's an effort to try and get you to pay a few hundred dollars for an insurance, or transfer fee, or whatever.

aka a scam

But the link in the mail goes to a Sender unsubscribe page. So the scam would fail anyway.

the sucker link has different tokens than the unsubscribe link , both have same sucker ID, but offer goes somewhere else.

sucker link https://campaign-statistics.com/link_click/R8xxxxxxxx/7138db5xxxxxxxxxxc9b9c78bd03d94
unsubscribe link https://campaign-statistics.com/unsubscribe/R89xxxxxxxvb
I added the xxxx's to corrupt the tokens

It could be Sender who's redirecting the scam link. Or it's a way to force Sender to waste some time and money on this problem.

or its a scam trying to get suckers on the hook

To figure out where the mail came from, I'd need to take a look at the headers of the original mail. And that's supposing these headers aren't fake, or obfuscated.

I looked at both the email headers and raw source and didn't see anything obvious, but I am not investing too much time on this.

JR

 

[cyrano]

or its a scam trying to get suckers on the hook

It's a very unsuccessful one, since both links aren't working (404)...

I think it's probably Sender protecting their turf. So the scammer won't receive anything from willing victims.

 

[Script]

So it's a prank. LOL.

I get similarly stupid stuff all the time -- like everybody else. Takes me 10 seconds to get rid of repeat offenders by setting a filter to immediately delete / move to bin. -- Life is too precious to spent much time on things like this...

Documents and notifications that are really important still get mailed as paper (over here).

 

[JohnRoberts]

It's a very unsuccessful one, since both links aren't working (404)...

I didn't share the actual links, as I said in my post I corrupted the tokens with xxx's so they wouldn't work, other wise people would click and go there. No I did not click on them.

I think it's probably Sender protecting their turf. So the scammer won't receive anything from willing victims.

Huh?
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Today I got a new one from a different lender. This one says they are from South Africa.

I must be on some international sucker list. If they keep coming I'll add them to my filter too.

JR

 

[cyrano]

I'd missed that...

If you post links, post real links. Otherwise, there's no sense in posting links at all.

And if you're worried that someone might click on them, disable them by inserting spaces between https and the colon...

 

[JohnRoberts]

I'd missed that...

apparently

If you post links, post real links. Otherwise, there's no sense in posting links at all.

If you are as informed about this stuff as you claim, I left in enough of the original links to suss them out, without providing free advertising for the miscreants.

And if you're worried that someone might click on them, disable them by inserting spaces between https and the colon...

Simple defeats can be easily defeated... some smart interfaces correct simple omissions like that.

But thanks for all your concern.

JR

 

[crazydoc]

I don't know why you're so concerned about this. We all get this crap - just delete it and move on, as Script says, like the rest of us do.

 

[JohnRoberts]

I don't know why you're so concerned about this. We all get this crap - just delete it and move on, as Script says, like the rest of us do.

I just deleted them the first 10 times or so. I shared it because it seemed like an unusual pattern of scam/spam (getting emails two different offers at a time each time and pretending to be from three different organizations, each sending two at a time. (The new one today just sent a single offer so seems unrelated, but perhaps working from some common sucker list).

Does everybody here get unsecured credit line offers, two at a time, for $200-$400k? If so I apologize.
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Funny story, I read about some Nigerian prince who died of natural causes and they found millions of dollars in his apartment that he was trying to give away.

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I long ago proposed how to fix this, just charge postage for emails. As little as 1/100th of a cent would probably make these large scale spam emails uneconomic. Regular users would gladly pay a penny postage to send 100 emails. I'm cheap and I would.

JR

 

[crazydoc]

Does everybody here get unsecured credit line offers, two at a time, for $200-$400k? If so I apologize.

I don't know if I do, because I don't open them or read them. If I don't recognize the site or subject line, I just delete them. I've probably missed a lot of ways to get a rock hard erection.

 

[JohnRoberts]

The only reason I read these was because of the unusual pattern. Perhaps that was on purpose to cut through the noise, but I still don't understand who would ever fall for these obvious scams.

Even Crazydoc doesn't read them.

JR

 

[JohnRoberts]

I set up an email filter to sweep these into a junk mail file. I have had to add new scam email addresses a couple time. Today I tried to set up a new rule to sweep all emails with "unsubscribe" in the body content into junk mail. All of the junk emails coming from different email addresses all use the same unsubscribe link address. My email filter isn't smart enough to recognize the unsubscribe url, and they all use different ID tags so the complete unsubscribe url changes slightly.

JR

 

[JohnRoberts]

I added "unsubscribe" word to my spam filter and it is catching more emails some from non-spammers like linked-in (not spam but close).

JR

 

[JohnRoberts]

I have about a half dozen email names in my junk mail filter in addition to flagging emails with "unsubscribe".

I just checked and there are about 100 junk emails in my junk file.

JR

 

[ruffrecords]

I read today some scammers were caught with their own GSM mast which they used to send spam texts to hundreds of phones. They use this method because it circumvents the spam prevention software in the phone providers own masts so the messages appear more legit.

Cheers

Ian