Mbira
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I understand, Sahib. Thanks! That must make the job of designer even that much more difficult!
Ptownkid said:The real question here is why would you want to put someone elses logo on something YOU built from the ground up?
casrec said:Hello everyone,
I apologize for my ignorance, but how does purple audio sell any of their gear. Especially the MC76 and 77. They are all modified clones. Even seventh circle, they tell you what their preamps are modeled after. I agree I think it is wrong to put someone else's logo on your own gear even if it is a clone, but how do so many companies sell cloned gear?
casrec said:Hello Matt,
I agree with you on the names and logos, but my question is, is it legal to sell clones of now public designs,(i.e. 1176, pultec's and even a lot of Neve designs) if renamed and cosmetically redesigned.
Thanks,
Brandon
sahib said:As far as I know yes it is. As you stated as long as the cosmetics is not a 100% copy of the original which is still under copyright. At the end of the day everybody is using third party components such as VUs, switches, potentiometers etc. Laying them out in a particular configuration what makes it a copyrighted design. Swap places of these and refrain from using the trademark logo or name you will be fine. Even a slight change in cosmetics can make it a new design as long as you prove that it constitutes a significant design statement.
The projects described on these pages are not commercial in any way. This means that we DO NOT sell PCB's, kits, or anything like that. It also means that any for-profit use of the information on these pages is strictly prohibited. I.e., you can NOT sell PCB's, kits (neither partial, nor complete) or finished units of the DIY projects on this site, without the express written consent of Gyraf Audio. These pages are information only - but the best and most complete set of information we have been able to come up with.
Mbira said:NO!!!!
You are using someone elses artwork and layout-which is their property. Directly on the Gyraf site:
The projects described on these pages are not commercial in any way. This means that we DO NOT sell PCB's, kits, or anything like that. It also means that any for-profit use of the information on these pages is strictly prohibited. I.e., you can NOT sell PCB's, kits (neither partial, nor complete) or finished units of the DIY projects on this site, without the express written consent of Gyraf Audio. These pages are information only - but the best and most complete set of information we have been able to come up with.
casrec said:Mbira said:NO!!!!
You are using someone elses artwork and layout-which is their property. Directly on the Gyraf site:
The projects described on these pages are not commercial in any way. This means that we DO NOT sell PCB's, kits, or anything like that. It also means that any for-profit use of the information on these pages is strictly prohibited. I.e., you can NOT sell PCB's, kits (neither partial, nor complete) or finished units of the DIY projects on this site, without the express written consent of Gyraf Audio. These pages are information only - but the best and most complete set of information we have been able to come up with.
OK, I am not trying to be a pain but this is striking my curiosity! I am confused about a few things, first people do sell PCB's and kits on this site. Have you had a look in the black lab. Is this some don't ask don't tell situation to protect this site. Second, in my research sahib is right, when a patent or schematic is up, it is public domain. You just can't use the artistic expression used in the COSMETIC LAYOUT if still being used and produced the rightful owner. Thirdly, if it is absolutely wrong to commercially sell clones, then why are there about 25 possibly even more companies doing just this and so publicly?
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