stay at home type 69 project

[craigmorris74]

Right, I've attached images showing what I'm talking about. If I install the pins according to Twentytrees's instructions, when I put the knob on the switch, the indicator points in the wrong direction, because of where the flatted side is the switch. Is there a specific type of knob I should be using?
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The answer to my question is I needed collet knobs.

 

[dogears]

not necessarily. you can also use a knob with a set screw.

 

[elie Pak]

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In lieu of trying to mod the full pre/eq PCB to just use the pre section, matt was kind enough to send over a modified pre-only version. Finished up 4 channels last night, all seem to have fired up no problem, just need to get myself sorted out with the panels and away we go.

Just testing them out with a 635A at home, they have a tonne of gain and turn into distortion boxes quite nicely, Should be a really fun set of affordable pres for tracking drums. Taking out the stepped gain switch and the inductors brings the cost per channel down to about $150CAD each, plus whatever you spend on panels.

Thanks again to Matt/dogears for being so generous with his time and expertise on this project!

Hi im interested in building these ! Could you share the link ? Thanks

 

[elie Pak]

@dogears @mdcmdcmdc Hi im interested in building the preamp only version ! Il will use Oep 1:6.45 input tranies. I was wondering what is the second potentiometer doing in the preamp. Only version ? Thanks

 

[TwentyTrees]

@dogears @mdcmdcmdc Hi im interested in building the preamp only version ! Il will use Oep 1:6.45 input tranies. I was wondering what is the second potentiometer doing in the preamp. Only version ? Thanks

Just to let you know the original Helios preamp circuit is optimised for a 1:10 input transformer - when I've tried using a lower ratio, I have encountered increased noise at higher gain. It may or may not be an issue at more usual gain levels, but worth testing before you commit to the OEP.

 

[elie Pak]

Just to let you know the original Helios preamp circuit is optimised for a 1:10 input transformer - when I've tried using a lower ratio, I have encountered increased noise at higher gain. It may or may not be an issue at more usual gain levels, but worth testing before you commit to the OEP.

Thanks for letting me know! I just bought 12 oep 262a3c (1:6,45) for 300 cad so if it work it's gonna make a lot of cheap preamp for me to track drums. Wouldn't the ratio of these have just a 4db difference from 1:10 TX? I'm a bit of of noob but I don't understand how it could be deal breaker in term of noise ? Anyway! Do you have tips and trick to contact Matt or Mdcmdcmdc because they didn't respond to me yet.
Cheers from Québec, Élie

 

[dogears]

@dogears @mdcmdcmdc Hi im interested in building the preamp only version ! Il will use Oep 1:6.45 input tranies. I was wondering what is the second potentiometer doing in the preamp. Only version ? Thanks

hi - it is an output trim.

you can use the existing board and just populate it with fewer items as described on this thread. easy peasy.

https://groupdiy.com/threads/stay-at-home-type-69-project.74779/post-1127482

 

[D.M.N.]

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In lieu of trying to mod the full pre/eq PCB to just use the pre section, matt was kind enough to send over a modified pre-only version. Finished up 4 channels last night, all seem to have fired up no problem, just need to get myself sorted out with the panels and away we go.

Just testing them out with a 635A at home, they have a tonne of gain and turn into distortion boxes quite nicely, Should be a really fun set of affordable pres for tracking drums. Taking out the stepped gain switch and the inductors brings the cost per channel down to about $150CAD each, plus whatever you spend on panels.

Thanks again to Matt/dogears for being so generous with his time and expertise on this project!

Really love this idea of simply the preamp! Is there a gerber file for the simplified version, and a schematic? Want to take a look and see about adding in a DI to the front, more affordable and better suits my needs than the Pre+EQ, putting a few of the pre's in a 1U rack unit.

Speaking of the Pre+EQ, what are people seeing as roughly the price per channel on their builds?

 

[oongbac]

Speaking of the Pre+EQ, what are people seeing as roughly the price per channel on their builds?

I checked my last order of components except inductors and front panel it's around 175 dollars.

 

[Rob Flinn]

Really love this idea of simply the preamp!

I'm not getting peoples desire for an mic amp only version other than saving some cash. In my view the eq is one of the best features of helios 69's. I have had maybe 8 of them on the bench over the years & always enjoyed listening to some music through them in my workshop. In fact the eq is the reason I'm building a pair. If I were only going to build a mic amp only version I would at least use a pcb that has the facility to ad the eq at a later date.

 

[Whoops]

In my view the eq is one of the best features of helios 69's.

+1

 

[JAY X]

Hi!

Last one to join the party...

So, I have read the thread, and the last version is Rev 2. I suppose everything is corrected WRT previous versions. Or there is something still to watch out?
Jensen, grayhill, and carnhill parts, ok. For the frontpanel, I know that frontpanels.de has the EQ frontpanel. but not the preamp/Eq. Otherwise, I think it's time to try and build one!

Jay x

 

[fritzmyname]

The frontpanels Frank has at frontpanels.de are for Igors project, they don‘t fit this one. However, you can Order a custom one, the Template is in this Thread. I have modified some EQ steps (2.8 insgesamt of 2.9kHz for example). If you want my design, tell me. It‘s all courtesy of @TwentyTreesground work tho

 

[JAY X]

Hi!

Ok, I finally got the pdf, changed the extension to fpd and could open it!.

Thank you very much!

Jay x

 

[MidnightArrakis]

Thanks! Yes he did. Not sure if I really need it tho. It‘s also a bit to short, so I can’t use the 2 screwholes next to the card edge connector.

I will use it for some sort of protection, but I guess the front panel itself would be enough to hold everything.

[It‘s also a bit to short] -- What changes/modifications do you need on this front-panel? The image below is the -- .fpd -- design file from Post #204 as imported into my "SolidWorks Premium" 3D Mechanical Design program. If you can provide me the mechanical dimensions of whatever you need to be changed/updated on this front-panel, I can easily do that using my SolidWorks program, then import my updated file into the "Front-Panel Designer" program and generate a brand-new -- .fpd -- file for you to have the correct panels fabricated for your project. Sound like a plan???



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[TwentyTrees]

[It‘s also a bit to short] -- What changes/modifications do you need on this front-panel?

Reading back on that comment, I think the issue was with the bracket rather than the front panel.