Another CK12 Thread - what's available in 2023?

[youngshu]

I actually wanted to share that video, I thought it was insightful, and shows very well what goes into product pricing. It serves well as a reality check for customers to realize they are not paying just for the sum of parts but logistics, brandname, R&D...

However the reason i haven't posted it, is some things i think Josh gets wrong. He says every product, even a pure rip-off costs money to develop, and has some R&D involved. This is true. However, why would I spend my money paying US wages for an US company to "reverse engineer" and "R&D" someone else's stuff, if i can support any company anywhere on the planet that makes truly unique products that involve real engineers, scientists with serious education and heritage in a certain area.


It's like paying a hacker for hacked software.

I'm not saying JHS hasn't created unique stuff.

He puts also weight on the fact he produces stuff in the US, which nobody cares about except people living in the US.

I like Josh a lot, he had guts to put that video out!!!

Its very interesting people dont understand the point of my post and see a name they dont like and talk about that. But I guess that was naive on my part I have a feeling people dont even understand what I was referencing earlier in this forum post. The point is to not get mad and bash someone whos product you like and want. These CK12 capsules everyone wants are small companies if not one person. The video recommendation was for context on how hard it is to run businesses and to give an explanation on why communication is so lacking from these capsule manufacturers. It feels weird to have to explain that as it seemed very clear in my post. People see JHS or any company they dont like and immediately forget context. JHS made a video about it and it was insightful. Im not saying they are the example for the best company in the world lol.

 

[kingkorg]

Its very interesting people dont understand the point of my post and see a name they dont like and talk about that. But I guess that was naive on my part I have a feeling people dont even understand what I was referencing earlier in this forum post. The point is to not get mad and bash someone whos product you like and want. These CK12 capsules everyone wants are small companies if not one person. The video recommendation was for context on how hard it is to run businesses and to give an explanation on why communication is so lacking from these capsule manufacturers. It feels weird to have to explain that as it seemed very clear in my post. People see JHS or any company they dont like and immediately forget context. JHS made a video about it and it was insightful. Im not saying they are the example for the best company in the world lol.

I think you misunderstood me. I got your original post, and i agree with you. I just wanted to point to one thing even Josh seem to not realize. I am not bashing either Josh or JHS.

When it comes to the capsules, especially CK12 i know exactly what goes into making one, and i apploud anyone who pulls it off well. They have all the right to charge whatever they like for it. On the other hand i am also trying to encourage all of them to make their own stuff, not based on someone else's design.

 

[youngshu]

I think you misunderstood me. I got your original post, and i agree with you. I just wanted to point to one thing even Josh seem to not realize. I am not bashing either Josh or JHS.

When it comes to the capsules, especially CK12 i know exactly what goes into making one, and i apploud anyone who pulls it off well. They have all the right to charge whatever they like for it. On the other hand i am also trying to encourage all of them to make their own stuff, not based on someone else's design.

I agree with you that wasn’t pointed toward you I accidentally hit reply on your post lol

 

[thomasdf]

Sorry I was fast on the trigger I am really angry at companies making money out of other people's designs. To me, JHS are mostly doing this. So I thought it was funny to refer to their "washing" videos and put it up against meticulous single man operation craftmanship.

That being said, I think we all are agreeing on the same things since a few pages ago.

I personally wish there was more transparency in the capsule making industry, rather than stuff made to more or less rigid tolerances in obscure factories, sold as premium boutique parts which in fact a marketed crap. I like to know what I pay for, and I am ok to pay more for quality & ethically made parts. I'll also add that the same way I hate JHS, I hate Mic & Mods (plain thieves) and Microphone Parts, and all these scammers stealing other people's work.


Also, I am looking for a good quality CK12.


Cheers

 

[youngshu]

Sorry I was fast on the trigger I am really angry at companies making money out of other people's designs. To me, JHS are mostly doing this. So I thought it was funny to refer to their "washing" videos and put it up against meticulous single man operation craftmanship.

That being said, I think we all are agreeing on the same things since a few pages ago.

I personally wish there was more transparency in the capsule making industry, rather than stuff made to more or less rigid tolerances in obscure factories, sold as premium boutique parts which in fact a marketed crap. I like to know what I pay for, and I am ok to pay more for quality & ethically made parts. I'll also add that the same way I hate JHS, I hate Mic & Mods (plain thieves) and Microphone Parts, and all these scammers stealing other people's work.


Also, I am looking for a good quality CK12.


Cheers

I fully understand and agree with you as well. That’s also why when we have a Tim, Heiserman, Ben beeskneez we gotta give them grace. It’s ok to be upset too don’t get me wrong but I think bashing them on a forum is crazy. Also if any of my messages came off rude or mean it’s all due to the text nature of forums. I believe in asking question to understand someone’s point better and that can come off wrong over text.

 

[kingkorg]

Since we mentioned pedals, Bill Finnegan even went to apologize for the success of his pedal in a way. The hype created lots of trouble for him. Maybe worth having in mind when talking about boutique capsules.

 

[Migs 31]

Its very interesting people dont understand the point of my post ...

To answer the first sentence of your post : welcome to GDIY brother ! (Sister or whatever you identify with)

Microphone capsules 101

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