Mysterious mixing console

[qspart]

Hello Everyone! First Post Here

I've recently acquired a high-quality mixing console that seems to be made for broadcasting, likely originating from Germany for the international market. I'm trying to identify its manufacturer and would love any insights you can offer!

Here are some details I have:

- Pikatron Transformers
- Danner Regler Faders
- The channel strip PCBs are labeled PM 501-03

Does anyone have any clues or additional information that could help me figure out who made this console? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

 

[rock soderstrom]

Hi qspart , nice to see you here. I hope someone can help you with this mysterious mixing console. Really strange, that there is no branding, logo or something that shows who built this audio mixer. Did you check the PCBs on the underside? Sometimes manufacturer etch their name and date codes on the soldering side of the PCBs.

 

[qspart]

Hi qspart , nice to see you here. I hope someone can help you with this mysterious mixing console. Really strange, that there is no branding, logo or something that shows who built this audio mixer. Did you check the PCBs on the underside? Sometimes manufacturer etch their name and date codes on the soldering side of the PCBs

Thanks for your response.
Yes, I have. I haven’t checked every corner, but upon close inspection, I haven’t seen any branding.

 

[k brown]

Overall form-factor looks very Studer-y. Maybe a custom-build?

https://www.vintagetools.de/VT-RACK...-Mixer-32-8-4-with-cables-and-patchfield.html

 

[zamproject]

Nope, 100% sure it's not a Studer, some design choices don't match, despite the modular rail and -euro rack- form factor that we can find on 9xx series.
The console seem pretty well made, but IMHO a step below Studer

DIN 41622 connectors on the back definitely point to German (or similar) engineering, but neither a Neumann, TAB of BFE...
Early ADT ??

Maybe PM is the (lost) brand, or initials of the designer name for a one shoot design/proto that never go further ?

So far a total mystery ! I'm curious too if someone have a answer on this.

 

[k brown]

Most likely made at a time when the Studer 'look' was in vogue.

 

[garp]

Looks a bit like an EMT mixer clone

 

[Murdock]

Have you posted this console in another forum or thread? Or on Facebook?
I could swear I’ve seen it somewhere…
These are most definitely of German origin. Pikatron Transformers, ero caps, DIN connectors, Danner fader…
Could be early BFE or ANT maybe?

 

[qspart]

No, I haven’t posted it anywhere else. It was on Reverb recently, so maybe that's where you have seen it. Indeed, Garp, there seem to be quite a few similarities with EMT but also several differences. Despite colour similarities Studer looks quite a bit different. Thanks for your inputs so far .

 

[Gulistan]

Mitec ?

 

[Rogy]

Based on the colour scheme and the alu profiles used for the frame, this could be Abe.

Abe used to build the EMT mixing consoles.

Look here for an example of another Abe with similar colours:
https://reverb.com/item/81524608-abe-emt-vintage-16-channel-mixing-console-mischpult-not-tested

Best Rogy

 

[Whoops]

It's really strange that it doesn't have a logo or a brand because it actually looks like a decent mixer

 

[qspart]

It's really strange that it doesn't have a logo or a brand because it actually looks like a decent mixer

Yes it’s very strange that it doesn’t have any Branding

Based on the colour scheme and the alu profiles used for the frame, this could be Abe.

Abe used to build the EMT mixing consoles.

Look here for an example of another Abe with similar colours:
https://reverb.com/item/81524608-abe-emt-vintage-16-channel-mixing-console-mischpult-not-tested

Best Rogy

Indeed looks very similar. Thanks for your input.

 

[Jeremy.Starseed]

ANT was going to be my guess as well

 

[qspart]

I found something on one of the boards. It says "DST Studiotechnik W+G GONG -SRT." Does anyone have any idea what that could mean?

 

[qspart]

Based on the colour scheme and the alu profiles used for the frame, this could be Abe.

Abe used to build the EMT mixing consoles.

Look here for an example of another Abe with similar colours:
https://reverb.com/item/81524608-abe-emt-vintage-16-channel-mixing-console-mischpult-not-tested

Best Rogy

Thanks again, Rogy, for your input. Now I can see that you’re most likely correct about it, as after further research and finding the labeling of Studiotechnik on the desk, it links up with EMT. Now I somehow need to find some schematics so I can build a power supply for it. I am super excited about it!

 

[Murdock]

Hmm, the plot thickens. “SRT” could be the “Schule für Rundfunktechnik” or school for broadcast tech in Nürnberg.
They trained sound engineers for the German broadcast institutes.
Maybe this console was build for them by „DST Studiotechnik W+G“. Although I can’t find anything about this company…
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schule_für_Rundfunktechnik

There are also multiple German radio stations with „Gong“ in the name.

Where did you find the link to EMT?

 

[qspart]

I found this old EMT website http://www.emt-profi.de/index-b.htm It mentions Studiotechnik Dusch as their company name.

 

[Murdock]

You mean DST stands for Dusch Studio Technik?
I doubt that they would write „Studiotechnik“ again after „DST“ when the letters „ST“ would also stand for Studiotechnik… doesn’t make sense to me.
Also ABE was a big enough company to label each of their channel strips with their name.
I still believe that this console is probably a custom one off from a small company. There were some of them around like Zähl Elektronik who did only small numbers of consoles for Broadcast or studios.

Can you find any manufacturer date on any of the parts? Like faders or capacitors?

 

[qspart]

You mean DST stands for Dusch Studio Technik?
I doubt that they would write „Studiotechnik“ again after „DST“ when the letters „ST“ would also stand for Studiotechnik… doesn’t make sense to me.
Also ABE was a big enough company to label each of their channel strips with their name.
I still believe that this console is probably a custom one off from a small company. There were some of them around like Zähl Elektronik who did only small numbers of consoles for Broadcast or studios.

Can you find any manufacturer date on any of the parts? Like faders or capacitors?

It actually says “studiotechnik “on that part of the board along side other letters and symbols I mentioned. I will have to desolder that board to make a photo of it . . Which I will try to do today. Will post some more photos soon.