So yeah, the PC people have won once again..

[boji]

You need to deprogram yourself because your beliefs overlap with white supremacy. It's not your fault - it's how we currently understand history

Deploying critical race theory to character assassinate people with unfalsifiable claims is an example of modern university indoctrination producing net-negative 'social outreach'.
Its choice of language typically does not persuade the world towards better behavior, or improve the mental states of people it seeks to enlighten.

 

[boji]

Since when are islam and christianity races?

best estimate is sometime during late summer 2017 or thereabouts

Fascinating. Might be a result of identity politics.

 

[rob_gould]

;D now THIS is the central question in this whole discussion. My best estimate is sometime during late summer 2017 or thereabouts

I'd ask what race even means.

There's no genetic basis for distinctions between races is there? It's a social construct which is generally used to categorise and separate people. Normally for negative or disruptive purposes, I might add.

In that context, doesn't it apply to religious groups just as well as it applies to people with different skin colours? The fact that different religious groups frequenrly also have different skin colours may or may not be connected!

 

[Banzai]

Since when are islam and christianity races?

Your comment makes zero sense and has no connection to what he was saying.

 

[Banzai]

That comment I made was intended to be ironic, however, Canada is not a muslim country, yet, the vast majority are christians, however according to wikipedia : "Islam is the fastest growing religion in Canada.[117] Sunni Islam is followed by the majority while there are significant numbers of Shia Muslims. Ahmadiyya also has a significant proportion with more than 25,000 Ahmadis living in Canada.[119] There are also non-denominational Muslims[120]"

So just give them time...

And this is true for the entire Westernized world, I invite you to check the fertility rates of the western countries and compare them to the muslim countries, It is said that for a culture to survive or perpetuate over time, the fertility rate must be 2.1 or over, none of the "developed" countries are over that or even close, this includes all of Europe, Russia, Australia, the UK, US, Canada, Japan, and some south american contries like Brazil are also below that, My country is barely above that, Africa and the Middle east are very well above that figure, the highest fertility rate country is Niger with a fertility rate of 7, and its population, according to the internet is 99% muslim and they practice Sharia law, China has a very low fertility rate and this is the only exception because their fertility rate is influenced by goverment policy for not allowing more than one child per couple, but it is not representative. So I call out to all radical muslims out there to chill, they do not need to commit terrorists acts if they want to institute a world caliphate, they just have to be patient, keep having children, and us infidels will erradicate ourselves over time.

(Flame suit on)

There was nothing "ironic" about your comment. You said it was a fact Islam was the dominant religion in Canada when only 3% of Canada's population is Muslim 

Then you call Islam an ideology... Agree with ComodoComplex, you are a far-right poster boy. You use all the same terminology and promote the same stupid ideas.

For an academic you're not sharp either. Anyone who understands demographics knows fertility rates aren't linear. Children of immigrants aren't going to keep pushing out 7 children just because their parents did. It's a stupid theory with no basis in reality.

"Muslim" is also meaningless. Just because you're born in a muslim country or to muslim parents, doesn't make you a firebrand fundamentalist Jihadi or even someone who believes in any kind of God. Vast majority of children of immigrants assimilate. They don't build mosques or blow themselves up in train stations... or even practice any kind of religion. The number of practicing muslims in France is put at 5%. 5% of all muslims in France, are actually muslims.

And no offence, but not understanding you're carrying water for white supremacists isn't an excuse.

 

[Banzai]

It is said that for a culture to survive or perpetuate over time, the fertility rate must be 2.1 or over

Overlooked this nugget ^

2.1 fertility rate has f-all to do with culture. No-one has ever said what you're saying.

If you want your population to stay exactly the same, you need a 2.1 rate. Not having a 2.1 rate doesn't mean you're going to "cancel" yourself, nor is anyone's culture going to disappear unless they outnumber muslims by exactly 99:1

Reality is that modern women don't want to have a billion babies. Doesn't matter if they're Chinese, African, Asian or Western European. Fertility rates are directly related to economic opportunity, education, access to healthcare, and availability of birth control. When you give women opportunity and power, they almost universally choose less babies.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/11/muslim-overpopulation-myth/545318/

 

[PermO]

Things are a religion until the point.. "if you don't follow these rules we chop your head off" ..that's when it becomes an ideology.

So also the idea of;

"when you don't agree with me you should be re-educated"

Could put you in a kinda tricky position I guess  ;D



btw, "The Mexican white supremacist" sounds like it could have been a brilliant Cheech & Chong sketch  ;D

 

[user 37518]

Overlooked this nugget ^

2.1 fertility rate has f-all to do with culture. No-one has ever said what you're saying.

If you want your population to stay exactly the same, you need a 2.1 rate. Not having a 2.1 rate doesn't mean you're going to "cancel" yourself, nor is anyone's culture going to disappear unless they outnumber muslims by exactly 99:1

Reality is that modern women don't want to have a billion babies. Doesn't matter if they're Chinese, African, Asian or Western European. Fertility rates are directly related to economic opportunity, education, access to healthcare, and availability of birth control. When you give women opportunity and power, they almost universally choose less babies.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/11/muslim-overpopulation-myth/545318/

Yes modern women do not want babies, and that is why some goverments are begging and actually paying the popullation to have babies, when the goverment starts paying you for something like that, you can bet your ass it is a serious matter. https://money.com/government-pays-have-a-baby-low-birth-rate/

https://www.vox.com/2016/5/23/11440638/child-benefit-child-allowance

I quote "local officials implemented a “baby bonus” in which each baby born is worth 10,000 euros, paid to the family over the course of 10 years."

Do you have any comments on the post I made about the PEW research were it estimates that Islam will outgrow christianity? is that also white supremacy? I love how you cherry pick what I said but completely ignore the post I made with hard facts.

I started talking about muslims and you suddenly (as Woke always does) turned it into a race argument, you twist my words, what you do not understand is that you think that your traditional Woke arguments apply to me, you just spill out your entire Woke ideology that college students use, you will probably start calling against my "White Priviledge" sorry, Im Mexican that doesn't apply to me because we didn't have slaves or racial segregation so we do not share your "White Shame", I do not have the "Confederate flag" in my car, I'm Mexican that doesn't apply to me, I wouldn't be surprised if you started calling me something like anti-BLM, sorry, only 1% of the Mexican population is afro-mexican and no, they weren't slaves, What else? Cultural appropriation? you haven't acused me of that, yet. It might surprise you that 47% of the mexican population are white https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexicans we are usually called "Whitexicans", yet nobody here uses the race card to win arguments because all know it is stupid.

We do have a good share of Woke ideology along with its good old friend Marxism, but we are still years behind, since 2018 when our country became a socialist country because of the new elected president and the rise of his own party, people here now believe that it is the middle and upper class responsible for the all the problems in the country and for the oppression of the lower class, you know, exactly what the communist said 100 years ago, race is not an argument yet. I truly believe that the reason why our goverment does not execute the "priviledged class" or the "power maffia" as they call it, or kill journalist, etc.., is just thanks to Twitter, Facebook and YouTube, 50 years ago they wouldn't have any problem to do that but now its so public. SJW college students who stand for socialism in the US, Canada or Europe, have no freaking idea what they are talking about, socialism destroys and ruins countries, destroys and divides society, my country is going straight downhill right now, and cancel culture plays a huge role in this.

Now, ideology, Sharia Law is not ideology? The penalty to leave Islam is death, that is not ideology? If you drink alcohol you should be punished with 80 lashes, that is not ideology? Islam is both a religion and an ideology. They do not believe in separation of church and state, they are church and state.

The other day I saw an interview in which a black conservative man asked a black Woke, feminist lady if its offensive to say to Mexicans spanish phrases, like sterotypical spanish phrases, and she said "It is very offensive for spanish speaking people if you do that", and I was like No lady, what it is offensive is the idea that you somehow feel you have the right to speak on my behalf and say stupid sh*t like that. That is cancel culture.

What amazes me is that there is not a petition (yet) to shut-down the entire Gearslutz forum because its discrimination or offensive towards people who do not have the resources to buy gear.

Everything to the left is a "microaggression" but on the other hand they say that "Freedom of speech is the most important thing", some can't even make up their mind if something is a microaggresion or not  I am serious, I've seen videos in which they can't decide if when someone sneezes and someone says "God Bless you" is a microaggresion or not.

It's already been said in this thread "If you want to talk about what I like and what I agree with, im down, if not, f**k you", isn't that some sort of supremacy?. What I find odd about the far-left is that they all want respect, but the second you do not agree with them they will attack you, spit on your face, scream at you, insult you, etc...

Just to recap, I spoke my mind and I never address anyone of you specifically, you were the ones who took it personally and since then I've been told to "shut the f**k up", to "De-program myself", I've been called "Incel", "Women hater", "Mexican White Supremacist", "Far right poster-boy", you just told me I am not a very "sharp academic", do you even know what is my field? I am not a gender studies professor, I am an engineer. Someone actually told me in this thread that I was "Going after her friends", yes, she took it so personal that believed I know her friends and she needed to protect them from me, a guy on the internet in a different country  ;D ;D ;D what's next? A Mexican Republican? A Mexican KKK? come on be reasonable.

Ok so to make things easier for you, so now you can call me "Religious nut", "Retrograde", "Archaich" or whatever you consider you have not called me yet, I'll just leave this quote for you, which in my mind represents cancel culture at its best.

“Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.”

― Charles J. Chaput

 

[boji]

There's no genetic basis for distinctions between races is there? It's a social construct

Aren't designer babies becoming a thing?

 

[rob_gould]

Please would the leftists, Marxists, academics, transexuals, wokeys, feminists, students, modern women, Muslims, SJWs and everyone else on the far left please, please, please stop doing, saying and generally just existing in ways that user 37518 doesn't like.

Much more of this and he might spontaneously combust from righteous indignation

 

[user 37518]

Please would the leftists, Marxists, academics, transexuals, wokeys, feminists, students, modern women, Muslims, SJWs and everyone else on the far left please, please, please stop doing, saying and generally just existing in ways that user 37518 doesn't like.

Much more of this and he might spontaneously combust from righteous indignation

That is too much to ask, I would be ok if they only didn't insult me, mock me (like you just did), call me names or tell me to shut the f**k up.. Also, the fact that you consider Muslims part of the far left intrigues me...


Leftists love George Carlin (and I do aswell BTW), well here is another quote from him:

"Political Correctness is nothing more than Fascism pretending to be manners".  George Carlin

 

[Dreams]

ah, bad news user 37518, i just got off the phone with the presidents of anteefa blm and feminism and we all agree that you're cancelled. your freedom of speech is revoked now

 

[user 37518]

ah, bad news user 37518, i just got off the phone with the presidents of anteefa blm and feminism and we all agree that you're cancelled. your freedom of speech is revoked now

Thanks, that was as useful, articulate and funny as all of your other comments.

 

[Dreams]

i mean i guess it was kinda hack but why try

 

[abbey road d enfer]

Your comment makes zero sense and has no connection to what he was saying.

Thank you for your wisdom. I just took his sentence as an example of how the logic inference chain is easily broken.
Having lived in Algeria for a time, I was shocked the expats there called Arabs "muslims".

 

[rob_gould]

That is too much to ask, I would be ok if they only didn't insult me, mock me (like you just did), call me names or tell me to shut the f**k up.. Also, the fact that you consider Muslims part of the far left intrigues me...


Leftists love George Carlin (and I do aswell BTW), well here is another quote from him:

"Political Correctness is nothing more than Fascism pretending to be manners".  George Carlin

Well it's a bloody good job we have freedom of speech isn't it!  At least, when it suits us. Not so much at times when people say things we don't agree with though.

All these minority groups that have irked you have been the aggressors all along, and I see now that you're the victim!  It took 9 pages for me to understand, but it's clear now. Poor you!

 

[PermO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-kFzzPtHsE

Might give some broader perspective on the subject as the guy spend most part of his life trying to resolve this issue.

Especially take his advice at the end.

 

[rob_gould]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-kFzzPtHsE

Might give some broader perspective on the subject as the guy spend most part of his life trying to resolve this issue.

Especially take his advice at the end.

Looks interesting, thanks. I'll watch the whole thing later.

Which bit at the end do you mean? The last segment in the school where they improved student performance by concentrating on specific ethnic groups?

Or his closing statement where he says we should be prepared to offend each other more often?

 

[PermO]

That last one 

Just don't be offended, it's a choice you can make.

 

[shabtek]

semantics! 
"cancel" was new to me but "microaggression" is a term I've heard for a while...both words have bugged me since entering my lexicon.

there is an irony I have noticed:
'cancel' elections or politicians whom don't play along

sensitivity to the humanity of others is a an offensive 'microaggression'