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Typical arrogant holier-than-thou "doctor."
Doctor of what?
What are your credentials anyway?

If you're so damn smart go debate Yeadon, Malone, Fleming or McCullough on Joe Rogan.
We know who they are and what they've accomplished.
I know more than some troll who doesn't know shit.
 
Typical arrogant holier-than-thou "doctor."
Doctor of what?
What are your credentials anyway?

If you're so damn smart go debate Yeadon, Malone, Fleming or McCullough on Joe Rogan.
We know who they are and what they've accomplished.
Lighten up Malcom, he's our "crazy doc" and a well respected member..

Don't take it personal.

I already tweaked him for being sarcastic, your turn to get dinged for being confrontational...


JR
 
Doc.. it takes two to troll

Wayne knows a lot about console electronics.

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[sarcasm] If we all just wear masks for two more weeks we can flatten the curve and this will all be over. /sarcasm]

JR
Sorry JR, my mistake - I meant that I know more about medicine than some troll(s) who doesn't know shit about medicine.

Yes, it takes two to troll. I have an advanced degree in trollling - I am a Masterbaiter.
 
wayne, are you saying joe rogan is a reputable medical forum?

No but some of his guests are qualified and reputable and it is they who offered debate. Rogan, with his huge audience, could provide the forum for that debate.

Doc - I'm a high school graduate. I, unlike yourself, don't claim to be a doctor but I'm smart enough to know when I'm being lied to and curious enough to research primary sources. I don't often source those references here because facts, in this fora, are like giving medicine to a dead man.

Other than basic first aid and life experience I don't know shit about medicine. I defer to people who do. They are published, credentialed, have experience and take great personal and professional risk speaking out against what they believe is a very, very harmful medical cartel.

We have no proof that you are what you say you are. Is your doctorate in trolling or medicine? Credentials please.

If you're as confident in your position as you are arrogant it would seem that you would leap at the chance to debate physicians who take an alternative view.

Your ad hominem attacks directed at me and others who disagree with you are misdirected. Stop hiding behind the nom de plume "crazydoc," step up to the plate and direct your "masterbaiter" skills at those fully-qualified to challenge you.

I think you're all hat and no cattle.
 
Other than basic first aid and life experience I don't know shit about medicine. I defer to people who do. They are published, credentialed, have experience and take great personal and professional risk
It's interesting that in your self-confessed ignorance you know which "experts" to believe. It's also interesting that you pick the tiniest minority who say the craziest (and generally unsupported) stuff. I guess that's what (self-confessed) ignorance will do for you if you let it.

On a similar note, I noticed your sig file went from supporting horrible human being Alex "false flag" Jones to giving sodderboy an opportunity for an ad hominem attack in absentia. And right at the bottom of a post where you calling out crazydoc for ad hominem attacks.
 
Being vaccinated does not stop you getting the virus but it should mitigate the symptoms.

I find it a little strange that this is your takeaway from what was posted. We have two individuals with the same vaccination status and exposure levels and two different results. This is not an asymptomatic case, as an asymptomatic person will still replicate the virus and that will eventually show up in a test. That hasn't happened here. If a person keeps testing negative do you still conclude they had the virus? That doesn't make sense.

The most logical explanation is that in this particular case the vaccine actually worked, the virus was never able to replicate to detectable levels for 1 of 2 people. Is that not an interesting result?
 
I know i didn't know the threat of the virus in 2020 so took risk mitigation action by removing myself and others from society for ~3months.....
some people still seem to not know these (gathered from the data) things as observed (3 calendar years)

did we know that hospitalized cases and deaths as a result of COVID infection would be outliers in 2020 or did we think it was going to kill everyone it touched? I was worried of the latter, but it didn't play out (lots of examples in early 2020 suggested as much)

Some seem to still be in camp latter.. unfortunately.



....someone asked about negative tests and "presumptive positive" conclusions... yes this is happening I have documented evidence of such (extensive)

"The most logical explanation is that in this particular case the vaccine actually worked, the virus was never able to replicate to detectable levels for 1 of 2 people. Is that not an interesting result?"
or maybe that the vaccine didn't work and the uninfected individual evaded infection, while not ruling this out offering that "vaccine worked" isn't quite robust conclusion but possible (though trending data suggests maybe not as possible as we'd have hoped)
 
It doesn't really make any difference what my credentials are to those who disagree with me - you don't believe me and that's OK. Despite my credentials, there is a lot I don't know about medicine in general, virology, immunology and epidemiology, but I would guess that I am a lot more qualified than the "internet doctors" posting here to evaluate medical data.

But I'll go ahead and bite on your troll bait: I have 4 years of medical school, 3 years of residency, 30+ years of clinical experience, and a license to kill.
 
It doesn't really make any difference what my credentials are to those who disagree with me - you don't believe me and that's OK. Despite my credentials, there is a lot I don't know about medicine in general, virology, immunology and epidemiology, but I would guess that I am a lot more qualified than the "internet doctors" posting here to evaluate medical data.

But I'll go ahead and bite on your troll bait: I have 4 years of medical school, 3 years of residency, 30+ years of clinical experience, and a license to kill.
oh good another medical professional who thinks kids that aren't dying need shots that aren't working
yay more fiat medicine

...if you were responding to my "bait" it was a practical health quiz, what's your waistline? 😅 (none of my business but you know; skin in the game)
 
I still don't like vague ad hominem targeting large groups.
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As I have shared before obesity is a risk factor for Covid and life in general. My BMI of 27 indicates I am overweight.

I am relatively skinny for MS. ;)

JR
 
no offense but if you pull up with your "health" credentials the first thing I wanna observe is your waistline, do you actually believe in what it is you're preaching (health) or is it your means of revenue stream? skin in the game... i'm not flying with a pilot that crashes or fishing with my buddy that sank 2 boats

 
Are we pimping shots for people not susceptible to dying while ignoring the heart disease elephant in the room?
Why is it ok to ask for a vaccine status but when people are clearly obese it's societally acceptable to cheer them on for being fat?
There's no way to know if an individual is at risk for dying from covid. and it's not just dying, it's the disease and its potential long term sequelae, even in younger people and kids.

Trying to avoid the possible serious effects of covid is relatively simple - get the shot, among other things. It's not completely effective, particularly against omicron, but it's certainly much better than doing nothing. Avoiding heart disease is much more difficult - there are uncontrollable genetic factors, and comorbidities like hypertension, hyperlipidemia, and obesity are much harder to effect as they involve lifestyle changes that most people don't seem to be willing to institute.

My waist is 38", height 75", weight 200#, and BMI 25. How about you?
 
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