Built custom channel for Soundcraft Boards (SSL like)

[MidnightArrakis]

Normally, but not always, in the service manual.

I have -- NEVER -- seen the level of detail that you see in my drawing in Post #114 as being shown in any service manual.

If he gives his availability for the metalwork part would already be a starting point,

Frequently, getting members on this forum to even "get started" on doing something becomes nearly impossible!!!

remains the pcb part, that it might be better to divide into 3? (premap , eq , auxes)

I have also "Reverse-Engineered" plenty of PCB's, ranging from 1974 API mixing consoles to U.S. jet fighter PCB's, but again.....I need the actual PCB in my hand in order to accurately and properly do a "Reverse-Engineering" of it and I don't think that that's gonna happen anytime soon!!!

In any case.....I'm here!!!.....

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[TimG]

In the name of science, I’d kick in for a junk 200b channel to be shipped to MidnightArrakis. 50-60€ in his hands?
I don’t even own a board but it might get cool.

 

[DeathToneM@]

Give me a week or so and will see if I can dig out a spare module from my storage container..

 

[MidnightArrakis]

In the name of science, I’d kick in for a junk 200b channel to be shipped to MidnightArrakis. 50-60€ in his hands?
I don’t even own a board but it might get cool.

>> Tim: I'm about 90-minutes west of you, out here in Hagerstown. What part of Baltimore are you in? Before moving out here to get-away from the gun violence of Baltimore, I had lived in Pikesville and worked at Maryland Sound located deep-in-the-forest on Wetheredsville Road. I used to hang-out at The Inner Harbor and Hammerjacks!!!

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[TimG]

>> Tim: I'm about 90-minutes west of you, out here in Hagerstown. What part of Baltimore are you in? Before moving out here to get-away from the gun violence of Baltimore, I had lived in Pikesville and worked at Maryland Sound located deep-in-the-forest on Wetheredsville Road. I used to hang-out at The Inner Harbor and Hammersmiths!!!

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Duuuude!
When they filmed the club scene at Hammerjacks with the band L7 in John Water’s Serial Mom, you can see me in the crowd scenes!
A kid who went to school with mine lived in an old Dickeyville house at the end of Wetheredsvile Rd. That IS sleepy!

We are right by Druid Hill Park downtown.

I’d drive a frame to Hagerstown for Science! ( on topic “)

 

[MidnightArrakis]

Duuuude!
When they filmed the club scene at Hammerjacks with the band L7 in John Water’s Serial Mom, you can see me in the crowd scenes!
A kid who went to school with mine lived in an old Dickeyville house at the end of Wetheredsville Rd. That IS sleepy!

We are right by Druid Hill Park downtown.

I’d drive a frame to Hagerstown for Science! ( on topic “)

[you can see me in the crowd scenes!] -- DUDE!!! That blurred and fuzzy image you posted LOOKS JUST LIKE YOU!!!

>> My Dad was in a major motion picture called "Eight Men Out". ("Eight Men Out" is a 1988 American sports drama film based on Eliot Asinof's 1963 book Eight Men Out: The Black Sox and the 1919 World Series. The film is a dramatization of Major League Baseball's Black Sox Scandal, in which eight members of the Chicago White Sox conspired with gamblers to intentionally lose the 1919 World Series. Most of the film was filmed at the old Bush Stadium in Indianapolis, Indiana..... which is where I grew up before moving to Maryland to work at Maryland Sound).

[an old Dickeyville house] -- Yeah.....I had to drive through Dickeyville everyday in order to get to the Maryland Sound building further on down in the forest. The homes there are really neat "classic-style" buildings!!!

[I’d drive a frame] -- I'm not familiar with this phrase or terminology with me being an "Official Old Fart"!!!

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[Jeff Copple]

>> If you or someone you know here in the U.S. could ship me one of these SOUNDCRAFT 220B or 6000 channel strips, I could then mechanically "Reverse-Engineer" it and not only create a 3D CAD-model of the channel strip metal work, but also create a fully-dimensioned "Sheet-Metal Fabrication Drawing" that most anyone could then use to have their own channel-strips fabricated. Knowing how long and wide the channel-strip is one thing, but also knowing the exact dimensions of all of where the hole cutouts are located, what their dimensions are, what the channel-strip mounting-hole counterbore dimensions are, etc., etc., etc., is a whole other matter!!! But, I could obtain all of that type of information -- IF -- I just had an actual unit right here in my hands. Any ideas and/or suggestions???

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I can send you a soundcraft 6000 input channel strip

 

[MidnightArrakis]

I can send you a soundcraft 6000 input channel strip

[I can send you a soundcraft 6000 input channel strip] -- REALLY??? Then.....

1) Since you appear to be a rather new member here on this forum, I believe you have to have posted at least 10 responses before you are able to PM (Private Message) me, so we can exchange information.

2) Since this is a "Forum Group Effort", you will need to personally bear the cost of shipping. I am donating my time and expertise into the "Reverse-Engineering" of the metalwork and anything else that may come up along the way, but I am -- NOT -- going to also pay for the shipping of an item that is actually for some other member on this thread. If the OP "Xarolium" wishes to help out here and perhaps send you some money via PayPal in order to see their dream project become a reality, then I would encourage the OP to help you out with the shipping costs, which brings me to:

3) What part of this Planet Earth are you on??? Here in The Good Ol' U.S. of A.??? Or.....Timbuktu??? (I would strongly suggest updating your avatar information to include your location. Take a look at some of the other screen-name avatars and you will see where they are located). My mailing Zip Code is -- 21742 - USA -- which should help you out in calculating the shipping costs. You will need to determine the size and weight of the module shipping container and it will also be up to you to pack the module up very well.

4) If your module also includes the PCB, I could then also create a "PCB Board-Outline" drawing file as well.

Now.....are you still interested in sending me a module??? Just askin'.....

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[DeathToneM@]

Give me a week or so and will see if I can dig out a spare module from my storage container..

Sorry guys, I've looked high and low, but I can't find the modules. I'm in between home's at the moment, so once I'm settled again, I will find them. So will check back to see if its still needed then.

 

[TimG]

Speaking for the 200bs, does it matter if it is standard or sweep eq as far as MidnightArrakis’s part of the project?

(Edited)
I’ve sent him a 200b sweep eq channel, but if the PCB project is primarily towards the 6000, maybe he should take a measure or one of those first?

TimG

 

[TimG]

Ok got a 200b channel into MidnightArrakis’s hands, and he generously took some measurements and explained the British post-war metal bending and fabrication method they likely used.

I think it would be useful as the basis of a digital model (a technical doc?) for ongoing development of stuff IN a Soundcraft channel of interest to the Xarolium endeavor,
think he should probably hold off until someone can get him a 600 or 6000 channel frame or we know which way the PCB endeavor is heading.

He did these cool renderings of the Soundcraft 200b with sweep eq.

@MidnightArrakis

 

[SIXTYNINER]

.......
think he should probably hold off until someone can get him a 600 or 6000 channel frame or we know which way the PCB endeavor is heading.

He did these cool renderings of the Soundcraft 200b with sweep eq.

Great work !

Maybe "modular" way help also for different types of pre and eq as well ?
(mainboard + add on pre - eq - auxes cards, with double pot on auxes ).

 

[Ricardus]

Arrakis has some serious CAD/CAM and PCB chops, that's for sure!

 

[r2d2]

Great work !

Maybe "modular" way help also for different types of pre and eq as well ?
(mainboard + add on pre - eq - auxes cards, with double pot on auxes ).

Super cool !
Pre and parametric eq sections as daughter board for free choice
also many combinations possible between the "universe" of pre and eq type,
limitless diy,

a revolutionary "open source" console ?

Then the mainboard would have the slots for host the daughter boards
and would provide them the power and the audio signal in-out connections,

only the pots and switches positions would be the same for all type of eq and pre boards,
otherwise, it would be necessary to redo the metal bar
which would add unnecessary costs,
given that It would be enough to close any unused holes with plastic plugs,

the other sections (auxes, busses, faders, mute, solo, panpot, insert. etc..)
would remain the same on the mainboard,

Inserting a compressor board section would lengthen the ch strip bar too much,
It would then suffice to set up a pre-post eq insert option
for plug external outboard where required,

last thing as well the master section with summ daughter board ?
In order to eventually swap between different summ options.

 

[TimG]

That’s what a friend of mine who is not on GDIY said. “make me a new master section”.

 

[Jeff Copple]

[I can send you a soundcraft 6000 input channel strip] -- REALLY??? Then.....

1) Since you appear to be a rather new member here on this forum, I believe you have to have posted at least 10 responses before you are able to PM (Private Message) me, so we can exchange information.

2) Since this is a "Forum Group Effort", you will need to personally bear the cost of shipping. I am donating my time and expertise into the "Reverse-Engineering" of the metalwork and anything else that may come up along the way, but I am -- NOT -- going to also pay for the shipping of an item that is actually for some other member on this thread. If the OP "Xarolium" wishes to help out here and perhaps send you some money via PayPal in order to see their dream project become a reality, then I would encourage the OP to help you out with the shipping costs, which brings me to:

3) What part of this Planet Earth are you on??? Here in The Good Ol' U.S. of A.??? Or.....Timbuktu??? (I would strongly suggest updating your avatar information to include your location. Take a look at some of the other screen-name avatars and you will see where they are located). My mailing Zip Code is -- 21742 - USA -- which should help you out in calculating the shipping costs. You will need to determine the size and weight of the module shipping container and it will also be up to you to pack the module up very well.

4) If your module also includes the PCB, I could then also create a "PCB Board-Outline" drawing file as well.

Now.....are you still interested in sending me a module??? Just askin'.....

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I have a spare module I don’t mind sending you, my console is in storage so it may be a while until I can dig it out and remove an input module from the series 6000 I have.
But once I do I’ll gladly send it to you, provided your fine with shipping it back.

 

[MidnightArrakis]

I have a spare module I don’t mind sending you, my console is in storage so it may be a while until I can dig it out and remove an input module from the series 6000 I have.
But once I do I’ll gladly send it to you, provided your fine with shipping it back.

[I have a spare module I don’t mind sending you] -- I'm guessing that you have seen the 200B module that I have created for TimG in Post #131 after he had a 200B module sent to me. I can do the exact same thing with your 6000 module as well.

[I’ll gladly send it to you, provided your fine with shipping it back] -- I have no problem with shipping the module back to you.....on your dime!!! Snail-mail??? Or, UPS??? Eh???.....

[provided your fine] -- you're

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[SIXTYNINER]

.....thing with your 6000 module as well.
......

only as 2 cents about :
6000 , 600 , 500 same chassis

6000 - 6 aux sends pots, and busses/groups switches aside fader,

"modular way" = Diy Super "Festival" ; )
cheers

 

[ruffrecords]

Ok got a 200b channel into MidnightArrakis’s hands, and he generously took some measurements and explained the British post-war metal bending and fabrication method they likely used.

I think it would be useful as the basis of a digital model (a technical doc?) for ongoing development of stuff IN a Soundcraft channel of interest to the Xarolium endeavor,
think he should probably hold off until someone can get him a 600 or 6000 channel frame or we know which way the PCB endeavor is heading.

He did these cool renderings of the Soundcraft 200b with sweep eq.

Just a small point. I do not see any fixing holes in the front panel for the slider fader.

Cheers

Ian

 

[MidnightArrakis]

Just a small point. I do not see any fixing holes in the front panel for the slider fader.

Cheers

Ian

[I do not see any fixing holes in the front panel for the slider fader] -- There aren't any!!! The two fader mounting screws simply screw into the fader mounting holes at and within both extreme ends of the slot itself. When I dismantled the module, I was initially surprised to see that there weren't any separate mounting holes, but then it also immediately made sense because why go to the extra (ever so teeny-tiny) effort and expense (times umpteen thousands of modules) of fabricating two extra holes when their function can be so easily included within the slot dimensions that is already there!!! DUH!!!.....

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