Donald trump. what is your take on him?

[DaveP]

Tubetec,
In 2006 I took my wife and a group of friends to Wicklow for her 50th birthday, we had some log cabins at a small resort there.

Next door was a group of women who belonged to a support group because all their kids were junkies.  They invited us in and shared their stories with us...............all of them were tragic but they were determined to forget their problems for one weekend and party.  We all had to sing something as a forfeit for being English!  I sang part of Marvin Gaye's Aint that peculiar for mine.
We are all interconnected...........6 degrees of separation?  maybe less?

I totally admired these poor women, who were going back to kids who were lying and thieving to pay for junk and stealing money from their mother's purses too.  There is a special hell prepared for drug dealers and those who ruin the lives of children I'm sure.

DaveP

 

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https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/913836524826972160

 

[mattiasNYC]

“He’s a very fine man,” Trump said of Price, not long before his resignation was announced

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/29/tom-price-resigns-health-secretary-private-flights-trump

Very fine man...

"Some people" were impressed by the choices of cabinet members after Trump took office. How many are left from that first line-up? And can we include the people who correctly identified it as a shit-sandwich and passed on the job offer?

Like I said before though, to some people the leeway given to this guy is endless. There will never be a point where he's said or done enough objectionable things to warrant a lack of support.

 

[JohnRoberts]

"Some people" were impressed by the choices of cabinet members after Trump took office. How many are left from that first line-up? And can we include the people who correctly identified it as a sh*t-sandwich and passed on the job offer?

Like I said before though, to some people the leeway given to this guy is endless. There will never be a point where he's said or done enough objectionable things to warrant a lack of support.

And trump also said months ago he could get fired if he didn't get health care legislation passed (he didn't).

The proximate cause for being fired is playing fast and loose with the people's money. Not consistent with draining the swamp.

I still like several of Trump's appointments (better than I like him).

JR

 

[Tubetec]

heres a tune ,raw as you like ,tells a bit of  a story about addiction though,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnNtz5Z1svg

 

[Tubetec]

As long as there's a demand there'll be suppliers ,you could go hardline China style  and execute the dealers and junkies ,wont change a thing ,its the causes of human misery that need to be tackled
Bobby Gillespie and his band of merry men say it better than me ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZCZjhjguA

 

[Tubetec]

blast from the past ?
caught these guys live once ,glad id did too,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqcAidqgqmU

 

[JohnRoberts]

In a positive development for US salaries, Asplundh (a huge tree  cutting service) was fined a record $95M for hiring illegal workers (to save money). They apparently decentralized the hiring process down to local managers so the top brass could claim plausible deniability about knowing what was going on (The Sgt Shultz "I see nothing" defense).

Enforcement of existing laws could make a huge difference to wages, of course some business interests will not appreciate more expensive labor. 

JR

 

[mattiasNYC]

Taking bets on how long Tillerson will last.... I say he won't last through 2017.

 

[cyrano]

End of life care is hugely expensive. Some would argue wasteful. That eats up a lot of the available pie.

It is nothing, compared to diabetes care. How many Americans suffer from diabetes today? 20% of the population? Europe was 15% in 2015.

And all of that because an American scientist was paid 70.000$ in 1954 to keep sugar out of the bad food news. The poor sod was owned by the sugar industry afterwards. You'd almost feel sorry for him, if it wasn't for...

He also was head of the campaign that ruined his UK counterpart and drove him to madness and a very sad end in an asylum.

 

[Gold]

Taking bets on how long Tillerson will last.... I say he won't last through 2017.

I like him but he must be incredibly frustrated. I was skeptical but I watched a lot of his confirmation hearing and he knows what he's doing. He seems level headed and and has a diplomatic manner. He knows what the job is and is trying to do it but is undermined at every turn. He wouldn't have been my first choice but he's no nut.

 

[DaveP]

I like him but he must be incredibly frustrated. I was skeptical but I watched a lot of his confirmation hearing and he knows what he's doing. He seems level headed and and has a diplomatic manner. He knows what the job is and is trying to do it but is undermined at every turn. He wouldn't have been my first choice but he's no nut.

I agree.

I hope that once this Russia enquiry is settled, he will be the man to reach a rapprochement with Russia and we can move away from all this cold war nonsense again.

DaveP

 

[CJ]

hey maybe we could get OJ to caddy for trump, that would take care of two problems,

no wait, that will never happen...

 

[bluebird]

I agree.

I hope that once this Russia enquiry is settled, he will be the man to reach a rapprochement with Russia and we can move away from all this cold war nonsense again.

I don't know, I think the psychology of the Russian people are aligned with they're leader.  Not all but I would say a majority. There is a momentum in Russia's climb to...I don't know what... but its not going to stop just because the cat will officially be out of the bag with the election meddling. In fact it might make things more adversarial.

Edit:

And further more, I'm sure Putin is watching the North Korea drama closely. If cooler heads prevail here unfortunately it will give more license for Putin's own chest pounding.

...Trumps maniacal personality is just fuel for the fire.  All the other maniacs in the world are just feeding off it. International relations with America went from investing in a mutual fund to walking into a casino.

 

[Matador]

International relations with America went from investing in a mutual fund to walking into a casino.

At least in a casino, there's a small chance of actually winning! 

 

[Gold]

At least in a casino, there's a small chance of actually winning! 

Unless of course you are Donald Trump who went bankrupt owning a casino. Not easy to do. His daddy had to bail him out.

 

[CJ]

his grandfather owned a whore house up here in Seattle, tied into the mob of course.

he cut off health care to his brother's son who was very sick due to his brother not giving him what he wanted out of dad's will.

never had any legal problems either.

rump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate. Of the 3,500 suits, rump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150. rump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court."

 

[DaveP]

I don't know, I think the psychology of the Russian people are aligned with they're leader.  Not all but I would say a majority. There is a momentum in Russia's climb to...I don't know what... but its not going to stop just because the cat will officially be out of the bag with the election meddling. In fact it might make things more adversarial.

It's good sense to examine the drivers of various national psychologies.

The US is shaped by an extreme demand for freedom, probably due to being under British control back in the day.  It also has a paranoia about communism and socialism fed by the vested interests of the capitalist elite (swamp?).

The French are shaped by two world wars and losing out to the English language.

The Russians are shaped by 25,000,000 dead in WW2, they feel safer with buffer states around them.  Just like the US feels safer with friendly governments in central america.

The UK is shaped by illusions of former glory and a fear of losing their culture to immigrants from former colonies.

Others may see things differently

DaveP

 

[micaddict]

How many Americans suffer from diabetes today? 20% of the population?

https://stateofobesity.org/rates/

Almost heaven, West Virginia

 

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