Donald trump. what is your take on him?

[tands]

You're much more likely to have a news outlet mislead you than an antifa org on twitter. Hasn't that been your experience? It's certainly been mine.

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/921517897880612865

 

[tands]

white members of the managerial class, eternally aggrieved at the lesser races that don't respond properly to their generous grace.

https://twitter.com/disco_socialist/status/921698996942282752

https://twitter.com/nationalparke/status/921128643337838592

 

[tands]

I need to vomit.

;D

https://twitter.com/AmirAminiMD/status/921832275339370496

 

[mattiasNYC]

You're much more likely to have a news outlet mislead you than an antifa org on twitter. Hasn't that been your experience? It's certainly been mine.

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/921517897880612865

Yeah, ok, whatever.  Continue your spamming.

 

[tands]

Oh, I'm so sorry you're not being entertained properly, Mattias, tsk tsk.  :-[

The U.S. Department of Justice has been fighting a case to prevent a teenage girl, who is an undocumented immigrant, from having an abortion. She has been in federal custody since early September. And the DOJ’s argument in her case has been, in a word, galling.

The American Civil Liberties Union is representing the girl, known only as Jane Doe, in the case. The ACLU says that their client has secured transportation to and from an abortion clinic, as well as funding for the procedure, yet federal officials have prevented her from getting an abortion for 25 days. She is now in her second trimester.

On Wednesday, a federal judge ordered the government to allow the 17-year-old girl to get an abortion. That decision was temporarily stayed after the Justice Department appealed Chutkan’s ruling to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit late Wednesday.

The DOJ’s stance in this case is deeply troubling. From the Washington Post:

In court filings, the Justice Department said the government has “strong and constitutionally legitimate interests in promoting childbirth, in refusing to facilitate abortion, and in not providing incentives for pregnant minors to illegally cross the border to obtain elective abortions while in federal custody.”

Read those words again, and let them sink in. The litigative arm of the federal government is now arguing that the government has “strong and constitutionally legitimate interests in promoting childbirth.”

https://splinternews.com/the-dojs-arguments-for-preventing-an-undocumented-girl-1819714219

 

[mattiasNYC]

Oh, I'm so sorry you're not being entertained properly, Mattias, tsk tsk.  :-[

It's not about being "entertained", I just find it incredibly tedious and noise-inducing when people just post really long quotes or links to tweets etc without adding their own thoughts on the topic. To me that belongs in blogs.

 

[bluebird]

Yea man, I think most people here are annoyed with you doing it. I'm not sure why you keep doing it? I like your points of view on a lot of stuff but when you have 3 posts in a row with just a twitter link it feels really impersonal. It feels like spam or an advertisement. If I thought I was a minority in thinking this I would keep my mouth shut, but I think its kind of a general consensus that your have a link problem and need a little help We're here for you bro...Just let it all out, tell us all about it...Cry.

 

[tands]

Too f**king bad.

Mattias questioned my source rather than the information it contained, which for POC you'd think he might be interested, but instead he wanted to get a dig in about them being antifa apparently, and stick up for the useless corporate liberal shill media. It's playtime.  I provided him with the obvious, that the sources he'd prefer are the most full of sh*t there are. As well as an indication of the bottom line, that the state has little respect for anyone's rights but their own, as an implication that these issues need his attention. Now you both want to cry about it. Looks to me like you have the problems, so deal.

.

 

[bluebird]

LOL...

Too f**king bad.

Relax. Whats your name young Jedi?

 

[JohnRoberts]

I see you guys have not been behaving while I was avoiding this waste of time.

cut the crap...  Be civil to each other or action will be taken.

Consider this an actual warning...

JR

 

[mattiasNYC]

Mattias questioned my source rather than the information it contained,

That's pretty much correct.

which for POC you'd think he might be interested, but instead he wanted to get a dig in about them being antifa apparently,

No, not really. It's more about it being Twitter and us having close to zero idea who's behind that Twitter handle in real life. If it had been a different Twitter account of the same type I would have had the same problem with it.

I seem to recall having questioned the criticism of criticism against counter-protesters, which included a discussion of just who and what Antifa are, and who and what "Anarchists" are. So to imply that I want to criticize Antifa specifically is just wrong. That's not what the point was.

and stick up for the useless corporate liberal shill media. It's playtime.  I provided him with the obvious, that the sources he'd prefer are the most full of sh*t there are.

Here's the thing though; there's a difference between the selection of news, the portrayal of news, and opinion pieces. I'm completely on board with the analysis of the US media in general as formulated by Chomsky even decades ago, but that doesn't mean that every item 'reported' on a mainstream news outlet is of the same kind. To put it differently:

- Suppose a news outlet reports that the Russia-Trump connection 'has legs'. It cites unnamed sources and informants. I actually agree with for example John Roberts that we should be critical of such claims until there's pretty clear evidence in public which support the claim. But this is one type of "news".

- Now look at the mere reporting of an event having occurred. Say, a Cessna emergency landed on an highway... Bill XXX passed a legislative body in state Y..... A Panda got stuck in a tree.... Some white supremacists got arrested for gunshots against protesters... All of these events are easy to report as having occurred. Twitter and other social media outlets are to large part a sewer filled with garbage. If the recent election taught us anything it's that. It's filled with misinformation. And this type of misinformation is easy to spread and I absolutely have a problem with someone just saying something happened without any corroborating evidence or other sources supporting it. And in easy cases like "X happened" we can generally trust media, regardless of whether or not it's Fox or CNN.

What's questionable in mainstream media is the junk that is opinion.

So there you have it. Hopefully you see the difference.

As well as an indication of the bottom line, that the state has little respect for anyone's rights but their own, as an implication that these issues need his attention. Now you both want to cry about it. Looks to me like you have the problems, so deal.

.

I have no idea what the above means.

 

[tands]

3 Nazis arrested for attempted murder for a shooting in Gainesville yesterday after Richard Spencer's talk.

https://twitter.com/NYCAntifa/status/921410719052128257

I'm not so sure I find that source 100% credible...

Has nothing to do with liberal vs conservative, and more to do with actual news outlet versus Twitter.

Is this what you see [attached] when you hit the twitter link, by whatever means you do so?

 

[tands]

Couples costume idea

https://twitter.com/LanaDelRaytheon/status/922587483891671040

 

[mattiasNYC]

https://twitter.com/LanaDelRaytheon/status/922587483891671040

Here's the thread-title again:

"Donald trump. what is your take on him?"

 

[tands]

Yes, but I find this to be true in general..

If you're getting all news only from Washington Post, CNN, NYTimes, BBC etc. you're missing out on a lot & ingesting capitalist propaganda.

https://twitter.com/KiranOpal/status/922847122738831365

 

[tands]

$300 million contract to fix Puerto Rico's electricity awarded to a two-bit firm financed by a Trump donor

Firm hired to restore Puerto Rico's electric grid, Whitefish LLC, is primarily financed by a private equity firm called HBC...

HBC is run by a man named Joe Colonnetta. I checked FEC filings and found that he'd contributed large sums of money to Trump's campaign

I found Colonnetta contributed... -$20k to Trump Victory PAC -$27k (max amount) to Trump's general campaign -$27k (max) to Trump's primary

I also found that his wife, Kimberly Colonnetta, gave the Republican National Committee $33,400 (max amount permitted)

But none of this proves they're in touch with the Trump admin personally right? Well...

After some snooping I found pics of his wife, Kimberly Colonnetta, with a couple people you might recognize

These photos appear to be from Trump's Inauguration and show Kimberly Colonnetta with Ben Carson and Rex Tillerson

Here's his daughter, Lucy Colonnetta. Who's that she's standing next to? [Answer: Trump]

Point being, the Colonnettas are obviously close with the Trump administration who awarded that $300m contract to the firm they're financing

As a PR official told me: "It is reprehensible that shameless profiteering is going on literally on the back of the devastated people of PR"

FEMA, which is supposed to oversee these kinds of contracts, did not return my request for comment

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/922797283518943232

 

[tands]

Whitefish, one of America’s smallest electric companies, landed Puerto Rico’s biggest contract to get power back on.

The two-person, two-year-old company hails from Whitefish, Mont. — hometown of Interior Sec. Ryan Zinke — and won an unusual arrangement.

Zinke’s son worked for Whitefish for a summer. The CEO and Zinke say knew each other, but both say that had nothing to do with $300M deal.

Here's the Zillow page for the business address...private home.

https://twitter.com/byaaroncdavis/status/922650972073201664

 

[tands]

And now, contrary to John and Mattias' wait and see approach, is the only time you'll see the actual truth of this story. Soon, we'll have a bunch of statements by partisans on both garbage sides which will obfuscate and water down the story, as well as the PR effort by the 'company'. Reasonable doubt will be magically created by this process, out of nothing.

But at least it will f**k up the tax cut for the rich Trump and congress were drooling for, and a spotlight on Trump's scumbaggery regarding puerto rico is not a bad thing.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/10/shocking-shock-doctrine-recovery-puerto-rico-look-like.html

 

[JohnRoberts]

I was going to post a link to a scott adams (dilbert) editorial about Trump's tweets, but google no longer shares WSJ copy for free.. 

Long story short, Adams recognized a technique in Trump's tweets to make you "think past the sale", a well-known technique of persuasion.

Here is a free (I think) segment from his blog http://blog.dilbert.com/post/129433801521/thinking-past-the-sale-trump-persuasion-series
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/126589300371/clown-genius

It is unclear  whether Trump is a twitter genius (unlikely) or just does this intuitively (more likely)...  I find the mechanics/science behind persuasion interesting.

JR

 

[tands]

https://twitter.com/AmirAminiMD/status/922518615093600256