?ENS Audio said:Sadly...so many lives either lost or wrecked for what? They all died in vain for a bunch of ingrates (No they didnt want anyone there..off key for a moment....does "Lawrence of Arabia ring a bell?" and now the greater Persia will be resurrected}
Can anyone say the word "blowback"??
Congress is held in lower regard than ...... everybody else.Im so tired of this "bias" kind of thinking thats been going on and just to make a statement in the next elections I will vote for ANY independant to whom has the OPPOSITE points of view and I encourage others that are equally as fed up with the whole dog and pony show. Both parties at this point benefit off of each other (GOP, winners take all in 2010 and 2012) I cannot be the only flaming Leftie that is aware of this.
My free market concern wrt health insurance is lining up the customer with the service provider. Right now the service provider is paid by the insurance company who is working for the employer. The heath care provider is not working for the patient! The government proposal would make the service provider work for the government, still not working for the patient.Also in regards to the free market debate...are we saying that we should go back to the appalling work conditions that existed during the turn of the Industrial Revolution? Before many evil communist "union thugs" put their lives on the line to make shure society wouldnt go back to serfdom?? Let's ask all those drug dealing migrant workers how much more wonderful life was before people such as Ceasar Chavez spoke out against the horrid work conditions...yes another evil communist.
Insurance makes sense for catastrophic health events, and some safety nets support for the destitute, but for the rest of us who aren't destitute or in a coma, we need to be buying our routine healthcare on the open market, and paying for it from our own pocket.
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Unions served a purpose once upon a time but IMO have long since evolved into just another bureaucracy trying to insure their own survival and expanding power.
I am not opposed to collective bargaining, its a free country. Management just shouldn't make a promise it can't keep, like detroit's job banks (paying workers to not work), and legacy retirement costs.
Actors, screenwriters, airline pilots, and even computer professionals (in the Philippines 8) )Sure I do enjoy debating the issues of politics with you folks on this forum for the conversations never devolve into name calling and slinging horse dunn...I just have my views and am set in certain ways on them, but one particular question I have thats itching and really looking forward to what answer I'll get is this...
Are there union groups established in the more "high tech/skilled labor" industries?? Correct me if i'm wrong but you will probably have a very difficult time trying find any union employees working for Google, Yahoo, or Altium, e.t.c
Ask our European friends how easy it is for young people to get a good job, when the companies must hire them for life?It seems that if in industries to where there are plenty of union groups that if from the beginning company employers would of started out being paying workers honestly for what they're worth.. these labor unions wouldnt have the influence they have today, mind you living in a "right to work" state my whole life this is just an observation based on BOTH sides of that argument and yes I do apologize if my bias is a bit Left leaning....
I'd like to hear from those to whom are from places like Germany as well so they can tell us if what some of us elsewhere percieve as a "workers utopia" is somewhat accurate or just a bunch of hype
Oh and in regards to Iraqistan, let's not forget http://www.marxist.com/images/stories/saddam-rumsfeld.jpg
(dont mind the sarcasm and actually I do love Left Wing hypocrisy more than the hypocrisy that comes from the right incase anyone gives a damn!)
In the past there were many alliances of convenience, where "the enemy of my enemy is my friend (for the moment)". Iran and Iraq were at war at the time IIRC. I believe there is less of that going on now, but there is still a lot of bad behavior that is tolerated to promote mutually beneficial trade relations. The Saudis still subjugate women by western standards and China is far from free, but we have more influence trading with them than not.
JR