fazer said:I don't know a way to plant and harvest crops for 7 billion people without oil for both tractors and fertilizer.
JohnRoberts said:(trust us we're from the government and "our" experts say this). I am as suspicious of government experts as corporate experts, both are working different personal economic angles.
JohnRoberts said:However the science that humans are responsible for that warming is far from settled.
+1It is about as 'far from settled' as is Ohm's Law.
fazer said:Hodad: I don't hate people but you sure sound like you hate a group that decided not to voice their feeling to pollsters. How about
No disrespect, but aren't you putting forth a conspiracy theory?hodad said:A theory: Trump is free to provide the grand distraction and feed his outsized ego as "leader of the 'free' world" while the big business foxes guard the henhouse, largely hidden from view by the shadow cast by Trump. Trump will be free to throw a little red meat to the loonies of the right while doing nothing to screw up things for big business (which is to say, no taxes on the wealthy, and absolutely nothing will be done to stem the flow of cheap legal and illegal (im)migrant labor intothe country.) The "deplorables" are too stupid to realize that they've been used yet again, and they will continue to live in their world of fear, hatred, and irrational conspiracy theories.
US markets closed higher today, defying expectations of a slump following Donald Trump's election win.
The Nasdaq index was 1.1% higher at 5,251.07 points, the Dow Jones was up 1.4% at 18,589.69 and the S&P 500 was up 1.1% at 2,163.26 points.
Pharma stocks performed strongly as Hillary Clinton's defeat allayed fears of a clampdown on industry pricing. Ariad Pharmaceuticals Inc jumped 23.5% while Ionis Pharmaceuticals Inc was up 21.87%.
Suppliers of raw materials and machinery also did well, buoyed by Mr Trump's plans to invest heavily in US infrastructure projects. Caterpillar Inc was up 7.72% while United States Steel Corp jumped 17.17%.
Well you see for president we do not go on majority vote, we use the following.Banzai said:Clearly, a vote in Alaska isn't worth the same as a vote in California or Florida (seems like it's more valuable?). How do you Americans feel about your votes not being equal?
I'm just not sure how you can call it the greatest democracy on earth, when the majority vote loses...
Wow! Well-said!!Banzai said:Clearly, a vote in Alaska isn't worth the same as a vote in California or Florida (seems like it's more valuable?). How do you Americans feel about your votes not being equal?
I'm just not sure how you can call it the greatest democracy on earth, when the majority vote loses...
pucho812 said:Protesting is protected by our constitution, acting like a jack ass is not. I wish they would see the difference.
DaveP said:Sorry JR, but 1000 scientists is nothing compared to the millions of scientists the world over who agree we are causing the problem. I've said this before, but in the early 1800's a British scientist hitched rides with the Royal Navy to every corner of the globe to check the CO2 level. They thought back then, that it might be higher in big cities due to human respiration. They did not know about Brownian motion and equilibria back then, so they were surprised to find that it was around 200ppm the world over.
This forms the baseline of human activity from where we trace the exponential curve to the present day 400ppm.
A model is only as good as its predictions that can be verified. Trouble is the timescale of these models is so long they can't be verified right now. All they are is speculation. If you really want to know just how crude these models are you should read Climate: The Counter Consensus by Professor Robert M. Carter.It is not very difficult to construct global models that tie the warming to CO2 levels. It was very much hotter in the dinosaurs time because all the CO2 we are burning now was in the air back then before it got laid down as plant fossil coal.
All the worlds Countries would not have signed up to the Climate bill if there had been any doubt at all. I would like to see out of work miners re-trained to work on alternative energy projects, there is money to be made there for sure and infrastructure to build, we all need a 21st Century New Deal. Warning: this may be me just looking for the silver lining again
DaveP
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